2012-08-13 Meeting Report (The Pines)
SPIN MEETING REPORT
CASE NO.
ZA12-044
PROJECT NAME:
The Pines (revised plan)
SPIN DISTRICT:
SPIN # 11
MEETING DATE:
August 13, 2012; 7:00 PM
MEETING LOCATION:
1400 Main Street, Southlake, TX
Training Rooms 3A 3B
TOTAL ATTENDANCE:
Thirty-two (32)
SPIN REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT:
Monique Schill, # 11
APPLICANT(S) PRESENTING:
David McMahan, Development Managers Caddis
Properties; et al (2)
STAFF PRESENT:
Lorrie Fletcher, Planner I
STAFF CONTACT:
Matt Jones, Planner I, (817)748-8269; mjones@ci.southlake.tx.us
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Property Situation
The property is located at 1360 Randol Mill, between the Jellico Square Shopping
Center and Johnson Road.
Development Details
The applicant is requesting approval of a Zoning Change and Development Plan for a
proposed 30 lot residential subdivision on approximately 6.5 acres. The current zoning
for the property is SF-1A Single Family Residential District. The proposed zoning is TZD
Transitional Zoning District. The application also has an associated Preliminary Plat and
a Comprehensive Land Use Plan designation change request proposing Medium
Density Residential; it is currently designated as Low Density Residential.
The applicant presented the development as a proposed life-style product composed of
23 detached single family lots and 6 open space lots. This product type is often referred
to as Villas and is currently market driven.
The applicant also stated front yard, common areas and rear board-on-board fence
The homes estimate a range in size from 2,300 square feet to 3,200 square feet and
range in price from $375K to $450K. The applicant has compared the quality and size to
existing villa-type homes in Timarron.
Submitted development plan:
COMMENTS / CONCERNS
Is this a new street?
Yes. We initially came in with 18 lots and no connection to Johnson Road. Then
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negotiated and got connection needed; and there is a median cut at Johnson.
We no longer need the easement to Carpe Diem property to the south.
With 23 houses on 5 ½ acres (22% green space) what is the density?
The average lot size is 5,500 square feet; similar to the Villas in Timarron
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What kind of traffic control will be on Johnson?
may put a traffic light in.
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Is this comparable to Tuscan Ridge?
Yes, it is similar.
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Johns
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What does TZD allow? How many units per acre?
The TZD district is flexible. Unlike the R-PUD district that limits you to 1.8 per
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acre. Council has the ability to determine density. Tealwood is a good example.
What is the reaction from the neighbors?
Recommended a 12 foot masonry wall
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Need more transition!
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How does the timing of this project pair up with the Randol Mill Road expansion?
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What is the next step?
We plan to bring our application to the next P&Z (August 23) and then City
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Council (September 4 & 18).
How much public park dedication are you proposing?
We are proposing 21% open space, however, are not dedicating any public park.
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We will pay the park dedication fees.
How many other developments in the community have this density?
The Villas in Timarron and there will be some in Carillon.
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But this is different. Those residential high density areas are
encapsulated with less density on the outer areas that serve as a buffer to
adjacent properties.
We are concerned about the density; when we bought, the smallest lots were ½ acre.
Have you given any thought to less density?
Yes, however, there are economic considerations. The alternative here could be
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much worse. There is a real danger of that here..
How many lots back up to this acreage?
There are 8 lots with no objections.
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This project is meant for down-sizers?
Yes, we think so. This product is market-driven.
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Do you have a feel for HOA dues?
About $50 a month
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We currently live in Crescent Royale and want to down-size. This is the same kind of
product. The 12 foot fence is a bad idea. You should come take a look at our
neighborhood.
What I see is spot zoning! This is not the same; 35 years ago it was 1-acre lots.
Timarron was planned that way from the beginning.
This is much different. From where I live, this will change my whole view of Johnson. All I
will see all around my property after this is houses.
What about when Target wanted to come here! We fought that and now we have
Sprouts which is very nice. We are just asking for less density.
We think if you want to sell a home on 1-acre, sell to someone who wants 1-acre.
Southlake is about larger lots; that is why people live here.
short discussion outburst between residents and real
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estate agent)
What affect will this have on Timberline Lane?
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Traffic on Johnson is very bad!
Will the homes be built on spec or buyer?
Both it will be up to market demand. Build out is estimated at 18 months.
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How wide will the roads be?
31 feet back to back with on-street parking.
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verbatim nor official meeting minutes; rather it serves to inform elected and appointed officials, City staff, and the public of the issues
and questions raised by residents and the general responses made. Responses as summarized in this report should not be taken
as guarantees by the applicant. Interested parties are strongly encouraged to follow the case through the Planning and Zoning
Commission and final action by City Council.