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2000 Neighborhood Meeting
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SPIN Neighborhood 13 15 Meeting Date 07/26/2000
Meeting Topic: Randol Mill Reconstruction
Description: Opportunity for all city residents to receive information from the city
Planning Department (Bruce Payne) on the proposed reconstruction
of Randol Mill Road from FM 1709 to Hwy 114.
Featured Speakers: Bruce Payne Director of Planning and Greg Last, Director of
Economic Development.
Number of
neighbors attending: 95
Location of meeting: Carroll High School Auditorium
Notification Process: Mail /Signs
Follow -Up
Information: Detailed notes from Bill Stone, and city Staff Members John Eaglen
and Chris Carpenter attached.
Bill Stone
SPIN #13 Representative
Notes from citywide SPIN Meeting 7 -26 -00
Questions Concerns Noted:
1. Why is the R.O.W. projected to expand into Keller?
2. Are there other alternatives other than this plan? There were several options presented
several years ago.
3. How does an average citizen get involved in this process, as it seems that the city and other
communities have moved forward, and there is no ability to shape the debate.
4. What is Metroport? Where does the funding for this organization come from?
5. What are the plans for the 1709 1938 intersection?
6. Would either the Texaco or Fina (or both) have to be removed to accommodate this project?
7. What is the benefit to Southlake regarding this project? It seems as if Trophy Club,
Westlake, and Keller alleviate their traffic issues by impacting Southlake.
8. Concern raised over the "if you build it they will come." Opinions expressed that the road is
not user friendly, then the traffic will not build up on 1938 a reference was made to the
visits to North Hills Mall in NRH due to unfriendly accessibility.
9. If this becomes a state road (through funding by the state) then traffic will be opened up to
trucks and construction vehicles, and will the city lose the ability to regulate truck routes
along this thoroughfare.
10. Concerns raised over the perceived lack of enforcement of truck routes in the city at this time
feeling that there should be more enforcement by DPS of trucks using Randol Mill.
11. In regards to the parkway model discussed, most people would like a useful road versus an
aesthetic facility can the project be scaled back by eliminating the amenitities (medians)?
12. How did this get to a point where Keller is voting on the Resolution of support and the city of
Southlake is scheduled to vote on a resolution at their next meeting without more input from
the public? Why can't the resolution be delayed by Southlake? When would this
presentation by Metroport be given in Austin?
13. Concern expressed over the perception that the "train has already left the station" and there is
no ability for the public to shape the debate /process at this stage.
14. There is a lot of master planning going on at this time. How does the citizenry get
information on the planning for the feeder roads, in other words, what happens to the feeders
along an extended 1938 (Johnson, Florence, etc) will expansion of these facilities be in play
also?
15. If the project funding relies upon a number of cities passing resolutions of support, what is
the impact of one city not passing or delaying a resolution?
16. Can the city provide an example of a similar road in existence around the city?
17. Because of the thoroughfare, many property values along 1938 are in limbo can a decision
be made for the road one way or another, so that property owners in the area can proceed to
sell their property should they desire to?
18. Who will petition the State for funds, as they will be funding the project?
19. What is the impact of opposition to this project affecting other projects that Metroport has
identified for state funding.
20. With traffic along 1709 nightmarish, expanding Davis to a similar capacity would result in
gridlock on that side of town.
21. This project is twice the size of the current road, a significant impact on Southlake.
22. 1938 expanded in Westlake if Keller and Southlake don't participate, what is the impact for
Westlake?
23. Will development change from residential to commercial along 1938 in Southlake? What
about a zoning change from low density residential to high density residential in Southlake?
What about zoning or developmental changes of direction in the other cities once the Road is
extended?
24. Is the pressure for this project coming from Westlake? If not, who is behind this pressure?
25. Do all Cities in Metroport fund costs for the project equally?
26. Need to address cut through traffic in surrounding neighborhoods especially in Myers
Meadow if this road is expanded.
27. There was concern expressed over expanding the road will lead to increased cut through
traffic.
28. When school starts, the city will be able to get a clear picture of the current traffic situation at
FM 1709 and Randol Mill heavily utilized.
29. This discussion brings back the issue of Continental Blvd. Expansion several years ago
Randol Mill area is similarly a low- density area, and can the city seek an alternative, scaled
back version similar to the results of Continental Blvd?
30. Has impact of traffic from Texas Motor Speedway been included in the analysis to date?
31. Sound issues other than medians what is considered as viable to mitigating the impact?
32. Comment made that since we cannot stop development in the surrounding areas the
question should be now how can we deal with the additional development?
33. If the need arises to expand 1938 from 4 to 6 lanes, is the median planned for removal or
would additional ROW be required?
34. Would a trail be installed along 1938? If so what length would this be from the road?
35. Moving west from Davis, what is another potential alternative N -S road to help with the
traffic issues from the additional development?
36. What are the plans for U.S. 377?
37. How did the Resolution get put back before Southlake when it was tabled previously?
38. How come the city staff is always butting heads with the desires of the residents? It doesn't
look like the elected representation is reflective of homeowner concerns.
39. Are there plans to widen Carroll from 1709 to 114? Why is Carroll not being seen as a viable
alternative to 1938 expansion, with the area encompassing Town Square?