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2010-03-29 Meeting Report (Elementary School)SPIN MEETING REPORT CASE NO. ZA10 -001 PROJECT NAME: Carroll ISD Elementary School SPIN DISTRICT: SPIN 1 MEETING DATE: March 29, 2010 MEETING LOCATION: 1400 MAIN STREET, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS MEETING ROOMS 3A 3B TOTAL ATTENDANCE: Thirty -five (35) SPIN REPRESENTATIVE(S) PRESENT: Ray Tremain #9), Ron Evans #10) APPLICANT(S) PRESENTING: John Blacker, Hart Gaugler and Assoc., Inc., John Haugen, Natex Corporation Architects, Derek Citty, Carroll ISD, Shane Garthoff, Garthoff Design Landscape Architecture STAFF PRESENT: Ken Baker, Director of Planning and Development Services, Richard Schell, Planner II STAFF CONTACT: Richard Schell, (817)748 -8602; rschelI @ci.southlake.tx.us EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Property Situation The property is located 2520 and 2530 North White Chapel Boulevard and is approximately 17.8 acres. The property is adjacent to the Kirkwood Hollow subdivision on the north, west, and south boundaries. Development Details CISD is proposing to construct a one -story, 94,000 square foot elementary school. Two driveways are proposed on White Chapel Blvd. The northern drive will be for parents to drop off and pick up students. The southern drive will be primarily for bus traffic, access to staff parking and deliveries. A third drive on Orchard Hill Dr. will be used for emergency access and other There is a 500 sf. covered canopy for shade proposed for pick up and drop off location. The developer is seeking LEED certification for this development. QUESTIONS DISCUSSION QUESTION: Why install an 8' fence along the southern property boundary when a 6' fence is already there? RESPONSE: The zoning ordinance requires an 8' screen. QUESTION: Why is parking still on the south side of the school instead of moving it to the north? RESPONSE: There are drainage issues with moving parking to the north and it is preferable to separate bus traffic and staff parking access from the student drop off and pick up area. QUESTION: Why can't you move teacher parking to where the overflow parking is shown in front of the school? RESPONSE: It works best to separate staff parking from the drop off area. QUESTION: Will the gate on Orchard Hill be locked? RESPONSE: There will be a swing gate that will be kept locked. The drive will only be used for emergency and other access as needed. There will also be a lockable pedestrian gate that will initially be left open. CONCERN: Parents will drop students off on Orchard Hill Drive if there is pedestrian access. RESPONSE: CISD will ask the City to install "No Parking" and "No Stopping" signs along Orchard Hill Drive and the area will be monitored by CISD staff for a couple of weeks at the beginning of the school year. If a drop off problem persists, the CISD would ask the Southlake Police Services to write tickets, if possible. QUESTION: Is there any guarantee that the drive on Orchard Hill will not someday be used as a bus route? RESPONSE: The school has a fifty year life span. We can't guarantee that. We design as much flexibility into the school site as possible. CONCERN: With only one entrance on White Chapel for drop off and pick up, the traffic will back up in the left turn lane. RESPONSE: There is greater internal stacking compared to other elementary schools in the district. The left turn lane will hold five or six cars between the northern driveway and the southern entrance for buses. QUESTION: How many cars will be coming from the south on White Chapel? RESPONSE: Approximately 90% of the school traffic will come from the south and about 10% will come from the north. CONCERN: White Chapel can't handle the traffic for The Clariden School and this school. The traffic may back up to the roundabout at Dove and White Chapel. QUESTION: How tall are the light poles? RESPONSE: Twenty feet on top of a two foot pedestal. There will be zero light at the property lines. LED lights will be used. QUESTION: Will there be light poles out front? RESPONSE: Yes. QUESTION: Can you provide renderings of the view from Orchard Hill showing the driveway, landscaping and parking? COMMENT: There needs to be more landscaping along the western property line. QUESTION: Will you consider irrigating the play area? RESPONSE: We don't know yet exactly which areas will be irrigated. We don't want to irrigate too close to existing post oak trees and it wouldn't be environmentally responsible to waste a lot of water. QUESTION: Will there be a buffer zone between the 8' school fence and the residents' existing 6' fences? RESPONSE: There will be about a one foot space in between the fences. The residents can tie into the school fence if they so choose. QUESTION: How many cars do you expect for special events? RESPONSE: The school district will look at ways to accommodate parking on the school site, such as perhaps breaking up open houses into grade levels. QUESTION: If the pedestrian gate from Orchard Hill is locked, students from Kirkwood Hollow would have to walk down to Dove and then north on White Chapel. What is the construction timeline for the sidewalk along White Chapel from Dove to the school property? QUESTION: Can you use grasscrete on the driveway to Orchard Hill Drive? RESPONSE: Maintenance is an issue. It's not feasible considering the school has a fifty year life cycle. ADDITIONAL CONCERNS: Tree preservation area Power line along southern property line. SPIN Meeting Reports are general observations of SPIN Meetings by City staff and SPIN Representatives. The report is neither verbatim nor official meeting minutes; rather it serves to inform elected and appointed officials, City staff, and the public of the issues and questions raised by residents and the general responses made. Responses as summarized in this report should not be taken as guarantees by the applicant. Interested parties are strongly encouraged to follow the case through the Planning and Zoning Commission and final action by City Council.