1994-11-03 P&Z Meeting • City of Southlake, Texas
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 3, 1994
LOCATION: 667 North Carroll Avenue, Southlake, Texas
City Council Chambers of City Hall
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
AGENDA:
1. Call to Order.
2. Approval of Minutes of the October 20, 1994 P & Z Meeting.
3. Administrative Comments.
4. Consider: ZA 94 -118, Rezoning and Concept Plan for Timberlake Community Church,
being 15.218 acres situated in the J.G. Allen Survey, Abstract No. 18, Tract
5A1. Location: Approximately one -half mile West of Davis Blvd. on West
Southlake Blvd. Current Zoning: "AG" Agricultural; Requested Zoning: "CS"
Community Service District. Owner: Ray W. Washburne; Applicant:
Timberlake Community Church, Phillip Bressinck, Agent. SPIN Neighborhood
#15.
Continue Public Hearing.
5. Consider: ZA 94 -130, Concept Plan for Napa Valley Estates, being 20.053 acres situated
in the J.W. Hale Survey, Abstract No. 803, Tract 1, and the John A. Freeman
Survey, Abstract No. 529, Tract 5, and 1.91 acres, and being a portion of Lots
1 and 2, Block 1, E.A. Smith Addition. Location: Approximately 1/2 mile
South of E. Southlake Blvd.. adjacent to the Southwest corner of Woodland
Heights Addition. and North of the intersection of Carlisle Lane and Rainbow
St. Current Zoning: "SF -20A" Single - Family Residential District. Owner:
Theron A. Ragan; Applicant: Phillip B. Scott. SPIN Neighborhood #8.
Public Hearing. WITHDRAWN BY APPLICANT
6. Consider: ZA 94 -131, Preliminary Plat for Napa Valley Estates, being 20.053 acres
situated in the J.W. Hale Survey, Abstract No. 803, Tract 1, and the John A.
Freeman Survey, Abstract No. 529, Tract 5, and 1.91 acres, and being a portion
of Lots 1 and 2, Block 1, E.A. Smith Addition. Location: Approximately 1/2
mile South of E. Southlake Blvd.. adjacent to the Southwest corner of Woodland
Heights Addition. and North of the intersection of Carlisle Lane and Rainbow
St. Current Zoning: "SF -20A" Single - Family Residential District. Owner:
Theron A. Ragan; Applicant: Phillip B. Scott. SPIN Neighborhood #8.
Public Hearing. WITHDRAWN BY APPLICANT
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7. Consider: ZA 94 -132, Specific Use Permit for a golf driving range per Ordinance No. 480,
Section 45.1, No. 10, on property described as 12 acres situated in the S.H.
Thompson Survey, Abstract No. 1504, being a portion of Tract 2E and a portion
of Tract 2E1A. Location: Approximately 1000' East of Davis Blvd. and
approximately 1500' South of W. Continental Blvd. Current Zoning: "AG"
Agricultural. Owners /Applicants: Edward A. and Reba J. Ponder and Ron
Krebs. SPIN Neighborhood #14.
Public Hearing.
8. Consider: ZA 94 -133, Final Plat for Country Walk, for 36.4344 acres situated in the S.H.
Thompson Survey, Abstract No. 1504, being a portion of Tract 3 and a portion
of Tract 4A. Location: South side of W. Continental Blvd. approximately 800'
East of Davis Blvd. Current Zoning: "SF -20A" Single - Family Residential
District. Owner: Continental Joint Venture; Applicant: The Nelson
Corporation. SPIN Neighborhood #14.
9. Meeting Adjourned:
CERTIFICATE
I hereby certify that the above agenda was posted on the official bulletin boards at City Hall, 667 North
Carroll Avenue, Southlake, Texas, on Friday, October 28, 1994 at 5:00 p.m., pursuant to the Texas
Government Code, Chapter 551.
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CITY OF SOUTHLAKE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 3, 1994
MINUTES
Commission Present: Chairman, Joe Wright; Members: Nick McGarity, Randy Arnold, Ernest
Johnson, and Arthur Hobbs.
Commissioner Absent: James Murphy, Lanny Tate
City Staff Present: Community Development Director, Greg Last; Planner, Tom Elgin; Zoning
Administrator, Karen Gandy; and Community Development Secretary, Bobbye Shire.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Wright at 7:30 p.m.
Agenda Item #2, Approval of Minutes
Motion was made to approve the Minutes of the October 20, 1994 Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting.
Motion: Johnson
Second: McGarity
Ayes: McGarity, Arnold, Wright, Johnson, and Hobbs
Nays: none
Approved: 5 -0
Agenda Item #3. Administrative Comments
Community Development Director, Greg Last, informed the Commission that Agenda Items #5 and
#6 had been withdrawn by the Applicants.
Chairman Wright advised the audience that if anyone was present to hear these two agenda items,
that they had been withdrawn and would not be presented to the Commission.
Agenda Item #4, ZA 94 -118 Rezoning and Concept Plan/Timberlake Community Church
Zoning Administrator, Karen Gandy, informed the Commission that the Applicant's request is for
the Rezoning and Concept Plan for Timberlake Community Church, being 15.218 acres situated in
the J.G. Allen Survey, Abstract No. 18, Tract 5A1. The location is approximately one -half mile
West of Davis Blvd. on West Southlake Blvd. The Current Zoning is "AG" Agricultural and the
Requested Zoning is "CS" Community Service District. The Land Use Category is Low Density
residential. The Owner is Ray W. Washburne and the Applicant is Timberlake Community Church,
Phillip Bressinck, Agent. The property is located in SPIN Neighborhood #15. Nine written
responses were sent out and three written responses were received from within the 200' notification
area - one in favor, one undecided and one opposed. One written response was received from
outside the 200' notification area and was undecided. Ms. Gandy explained that this item had been
tabled from the October 6, 1994 Planning and Zoning meeting so that certain items could be
addressed. She stated that the Applicant had shifted the drainage to the West to preserve the
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specimen trees along the Eastern property line, and their current submittal reflected the location of
the existing tree cover on the entire property.
Commissioner McGarity asked Staff what the number of required parking spaces was in reference
to the comment on the Plan Review Summary being 15 spaces less than the required spaces. Ms.
Gandy stated that the required number was 400 and the Church was providing only 385 spaces.
Ms. Gandy also clarified item #3 on the Plan Review Summary stating that the Thoroughfare Plan
shows a 50' street connection from F.M. 1709 through to Union Church Road along the West
property line of the Church and commented that this street is more appropriate in a residential area.
Allen Nelson, 502 Oak Street, Denton, Architect for the Applicant, was present to represent this
item.
Mr. Nelson stated that the comments and recommendations by Staff and the Commission from the
previous Planning and Zoning meeting had been addressed. He said that the Church is working with
a drainage engineer and that the drainage swale to the retention pond had been realigned to save the
specimen trees along the East property line and the parking lot had been moved as requested. He
also stated that 15 more spaces would be added to meet the required 400 spaces. He referred to the
handout regarding the style of lighting fixtures to be used on the parking lot and explained that these
would provide a downward direction on the light level with a severe cut -off angle, unlike lights used
in shopping centers. The lights would operate on a photocell to turn them on at dusk and a timer
would turn them off at 11:00 or 12:00 p.m. Mr. Nelson commented that the proposed street shown
on the Thoroughfare Plan would not benefit the Church and would be of more benefit if it were
moved farther to the West to accommodate residential development. He clarified that approximately
1/2 of the site (7 acres) was South of the parking lot and he asked the drainage design engineer, Mr.
Edwards, to address drainage issues.
Greg Edwards, design engineer for the Church, stated that drainage from the developed site now
drains into the existing pond. He stated that modifications to the existing pond will make this a
storm water management facility. Existing runoff characteristics into and out of the pond have been
evaluated and the plan is to discharge the same amount of peak runoff out of the pond as is
discharged today. The pond will act as a shock absorber where the water will be stored and then
released at a slower rate. The effect downstream of the pond is minimal and there will be little
change. However, if soccer fields are added in a later phase of construction, careful attention to the
grading will be required so as not to disturb the swales.
Commissioner Hobbs stated that he is concerned because he had walked the area two weeks after
the recent heavy rains and a drainage swale in back had been cut and there were standing pools of
stagnant water. Mr. Edwards said he had not seen the cut swale and commented that grading should
eliminate the standing pools. He clarified that improvements to the pond would take place with the
initial construction to the site and accommodate drainage from the parking lot, buildings and
impervious improvements. He stated that later improvements such as the sports fields and open
space uses downstream of the pond would not add any impervious area to this and would not add
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additional drainage concerns. Phase I construction will adapt the pond to take care of all of the
drainage concerns.
Public Hearing.
Jack Wiesman, 2607 W. Southlake Blvd., stated that he owns the property to the East and overflow
water from the pond now crosses the Southwest corner of his property. He is concerned as to how
the modifications to the pond will effect drainage onto his property. Will the water continue to cross
the Southwest corner of his property or will they channel the water to run directly South into the
existing East/West ditch on the South property line?
Mr. Edwards explained that a berm on the East side of the pond would cut off water that is running
across the Southwest corner of Mr. Wiesman's property. The water will leave the West side of the
pond and travel South to the existing channel and will eliminate the water crossing Mr. Wiesman's
property.
Chairman Wright asked Mr. Edwards if his plan was to convert the stock tank into a detention pond
and meter the outflow of water so it is the same as in its current natural state. Mr. Edwards stated
that was the intent but other issues concerning the safety of children and whether the final plan will
be a dry pond or one with standing water needed to be looked at. A balance of safety and aesthetics
will be considered and at this point, there is no definite plan.
Community Development Director, Greg Last, commented that when the pond is full, overflow
water may still flow East and South across the Southwest corner of Mr. Wiesman's property.
Kim Mortazavi, 3499 Union Church Road, stated she lived directly South of the Church property
and with the proposed modifications to the pond drainage, all of the water from the Church will now
be directed toward her property. She is very concerned with flooding.
Joseph Mortazavi, 3499 Union Church Road, stated that the ditch (which is on his property) that
divides his property from the Church property needs to be cleaned out. He also stated that he is in
favor of the proposed road connecting F.M. 1709 with Union Church because of the flooding on
Union Church Road. When the road floods the school bus cannot pick up the children on Union
Church Road and the proposed road will allow the bus another route when flooding occurs.
Public Hearing Closed.
Commissioner Johnson asked Mr. Last what could be done to get the ditch cleaned out and Mr. Last
stated that, more than likely, the City had no easement and was not responsible for cleaning it and
could not go in and improve it. Mr. Mortazavi said that he would give the Church his permission
to clean out the ditch.
Several of the Commissioners stated that they liked the plan presented. They commented that the
Applicant had addressed the issues and concerns brought up in the previous meeting.
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Motion was made to approve ZA 94 -118 Rezoning and Concept Plan subject to the Plan Review
Summary dated October 28, 1994 deleting item #3 regarding the Thoroughfare Plan showing a local
street along the West side of the property connecting W. Southlake Blvd. with Union Church Road.
Motion: Johnson
Second: Arnold
Ayes: McGarity, Arnold, Wright, Johnson, and Hobbs
Nays: none
Approved: 5 -0
Commissioner Johnson asked to let the record show that the Commission requests that Staff insure
that the drainage work on the property include the cleaning out of the East/West swale that is
adjacent to the South property line no later than the completion of Phase I development.
Agenda Item #5. ZA 94 -130, Concept Plan/Napa Valley Estates
Withdrawn
Agenda Item #6, ZA 94 -131. Preliminary Plat/Napa Valley Estates
Withdrawn
Agenda Item #7. ZA 94 -132. Specific Use Permit
Zoning Administrator, Karen Gandy, informed the Commission that the Applicant's request is for
a Specific Use Permit for a golf driving range per Ordinance No. 480, Section 45.1, No. 10, on
property described as 12 acres situated in the S.H. Thompson Survey, Abstract No. 1504, being a
portion of Tract 2E and a portion of Tract 2E1A. The location is approximately 1000' East of Davis
Blvd. and approximately 1500' South of W. Continental Blvd. The Current Zoning is "AG"
Agricultural. The Land Use Category is Medium Density Residential/100 -Year Flood Plain. The
Owners /Applicants are Edward A. and Reba J. Ponder and Ron Krebs. The property is located in
SPIN Neighborhood #14. Five written responses were sent out and one written response was
received from within the 200' notification area opposed. Ms. Gandy explained that the majority of
the golf driving range project is located in the City of Keller and that the Eastern portion of the
project containing the greens is located in Southlake. The golf balls will be hit from the West
(Keller) and land in Southlake to the East. She also clarified that further East of the Southlake
border in Keller is Mr. Bohanan's residence.
Mr. Last discussed the comments in the Plan Review Summary regarding the 100 -year flood plain
and regarding the Trail System Master Plan for the City. He explained that most of the
improvements for this project are located in Keller and the Commission is being asked to approve
a Specific Use Permit for a golf driving range in Southlake. He stated that Southlake has no control
over the uses in Keller.
Ron Krebs, 1912 Hurstview, Hurst, was present to represent this item.
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Mr. Krebs stated there is a 30' easement belonging to Mr. Bohanan to the North dividing the
Continental Joint Venture property and the driving range. He discussed the lighting information
provided to the Commission regarding the lighting system to be used. He stated that the target lights
would face West to East and target the greens. They would not point toward Continental Joint
Venture's residential development and they would not illuminate the entire area such as lighting in
a football field. The 30' easement area will act as a buffer zone and a 50' netting on telephone poles
will be put up on the North property line adjacent to the 30' easement and the residential area to the
North. Mr. Krebs stated that Don Armstrong, Architect with Golf Resources Design, Inc. who is
helping with the project, advised him that 50' of netting is what is needed for sufficient netting to
keep the balls from going from the T -box area to the North into the residential area. The T -boxes
will be moved each day and the length of the driving range is approximately the size of a football
field. There are seven power spotlights to be focused one at each green and the only other lighting
will be parking lot lighting and lighting around the clubhouse. Mr. Krebs passed a colored brochure
to the Commissioners detailing the light fixtures and how they target each green. He said that the
intent of this type of lighting fixture is to be able to see the ball on the green. He further explained
that the driving range was unique in that a scoring system would be used and it was designed to urge
people to shoot at the greens, thus eliminating many of the bad golf shots. He stated that there is a
tree line along the Continental Joint Venture property with tall trees which will also act as a buffer.
He stated that the hours of operation in the summer would be 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 or 11:00 p.m. and
the winter hours would be 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., and no P.A. system would be operated. He stated
that he had reviewed the Plan Review Summary dated October 28, 1994 and he is in agreement with
all of Staffs comments.
Public Hearing.
Craig Curry, The Nelson Corporation, 5999 Summerside Drive, Suite 202, Dallas, stated that he
represented Continental Joint Venture, owner of the property to the North. He presented a visual to
the Commission showing the close proximity of the proposed subdivision to the North of the driving
range. He questioned putting up telephone poles with netting in a flood plain with nothing to impede
the flow of water. He stated that residential next to a driving range is different than residential next
to a golf course in that in this situation a person is continually hitting a bucket of balls, one after
another, and at a golf course a person hits one shot every ten or fifteen minutes maximum. The
likelihood for bad shots going into a residential area are much greater in this proposed situation. He
said that with the greens so close to the subdivision, the lights will still be very bright and it will not
be aesthetically pleasing to have a 50' net so close to the nicest lots in the subdivision, and, even with
the netting, balls will still come over. Having the driving range for a neighbor does not make for an
attractive subdivision or a safe subdivision and Continental Joint Venture is opposed.
Mr. Krebs commented that the T -box area can be directed at a Southeast position and the location
of the greens on the Concept Plan can be moved so that golf balls can be targeted Southeast.
Public Hearing Closed.
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Commissioner's Arnold and Johnson stated they could not support this request because it would not
fit in with the subdivision. Chairman Wright commented that similar requests had been brought
before the Commission previously and he did not support those at that time and he does not support
this request now.
Motion was made recommending Denial of ZA 94 -132 Specific Use Permit.
Motion: Johnson
Second: Hobbs
Ayes: Arnold, Wright, Johnson, and Hobbs
Nays: McGarity
Approved: 4 -1 Approved to Deny
Chairman Wright called a recess at 8:50 p.m. and the meeting reconvened at 8:58 p.m.
Agenda Item #8. ZA 94 -133. Final Plat/Country Walk
Zoning Administrator, Karen Gandy, informed the Commission that the Applicant's request is for
the Final Plat for Country Walk for 36.4344 acres situated in the S.H. Thompson Survey, Abstract
No. 1504, being a portion of Tract 3 and a portion of Tract 4A. The location is on the South side of
W. Continental Blvd. approximately 800' East of Davis Blvd. The Current Zoning is "SF -20A"
Single - Family Residential District. The Land Use Category is Medium Density Residential/100-
Year Flood Plain. The Owner is Continental Joint Venture and the Applicant is The Nelson
Corporation. The property is located in SPIN Neighborhood #14. No written notices were required.
Ms. Gandy pointed out the portions of the tracts in each of the Southern corners of the plat which
are located in Keller. Mr. Last stated that Staff is working with the City of Keller on various
solutions to this.
Craig Curry, The Nelson Corporation, 5999 Summerside Drive, Suite 202, Dallas, was present to
represent this item.
Mr. Curry stated he had reviewed the Plat Review Summary dated October 28, 1994 and he was in
agreement with all of Staffs comments with the exception of item #9 regarding the North bufferyard
along Continental be in a common area outside of lot areas. After discussion he agreed to make this
a common area and provide a fence of some type.
Chairman Wright stated that he had concerns regarding item #5, centering interior easements for
water, sanitary sewer, or drainage on common lot lines, and that they should be offset so that
improvements are in one lot or the other. He feels that this eats up a great deal of the lot. Mr. Last
agreed that it was Staffs intent to require the offset only to the extent it would not decrease the
buildable area of the lot most impacted.
Motion was made to approve ZA 94 -133 Final Plat subject to the first Plat Review Summary dated
October 28, 1994.
Motion: McGarity
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Second: Hobbs
Ayes: McGarity, Arnold, Wright, Johnson, and Hobbs
Nays: none
Approved: 5 -0
Greg Last discussed possible convenient dates and times for a second workshop session for revisions
to the Sign Ordinance. The meeting was tentatively decided to be held on Wednesday, November
30, 1994 in the Council Chambers from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Confirmation will be included in
Commissioners' packets for the November 17, 1994 Planning and Zoning meeting.
Meeting Adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
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Joe ight, Chairman
ATTEST:
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Bobbye Shire,
Community Development Secretary
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