1992-01-23 P&Z Meeting City of Southlake, Texas
CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING JANUARY 23, 1992
LOCATION: 667 North Carroll Avenue, Southlake, Texas
City Council Chambers of City Hall
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
AGENDA:
1. Call to order.
2. Approval of the Minutes of the January 9, 1992 P & Z Meeting.
3. Administrative Comments.
4. Consider: ZA 91 -75, Rezoning request for 19.995 acres, L.B.G.
Hall Survey, Abstract No.686, Tracts 3F and 3G from
"AG ", Agricultural to "SF -20A ", Single Family -20A.
Location: North side of F.M. 1709, approximately
800 feet West of Shady Oaks Drive. Owner: First
National Bank of Grapevine.
Applicant: G Development.
Public Hearing.
5. Consider: ZA 91 -76, Preliminary Plat of Pecan Lakes, 19.995
acres, L.B.G. Hall Survey, Abstract No. 686, Tracts
3F and 3G. Location: North side of F.M. 1709,
approximately 800 feet West of Shady Oaks Drive.
Owner: First National Bank of Grapevine.
Applicant: G Development.
Public Hearing.
6. Consider: Revisions to the Masonry Ordinance Nos. 311 and 415.
Public Hearing.
7. Meeting Adjourned.
I hereby certify that the above agenda was posted on the official
bulletin boards at City Hall, 667 North Carroll Avenue, Southlake,
Texas on Friday, January 17, 1992, at 5:00 p.m., pursuant to the
Open Meetings Act, Article 6252 -17 V.T.C.S.
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CITY OF SOUTHLAKE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
January 23, 1992 7:30 p.m.
MINUTES
Commissioners Present: Chairman, Joe Wright; Members: Lanny Tate,
Larry Samartin, Michael Richarme, Dennis McGrath, and Stephen
Apple.
Commissioner Absent: Bob Dowdy
City Staff Present: Zoning Administrator, Karen P. Gandy; City
Planner, Greg Last; and, Secretary to the City Manager, Kim Bush.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Wright at 7:30 p.m.
Agenda Item #2, Approval of Minutes
Motion was made to approve the minutes of the January 9, 1992,
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting as presented.
Motion: Apple
Second: McGrath
Ayes: Tate, Samartin, Wright, Richarme, McGrath, Apple
Nays: none
Approved: 6 -0
Agenda Item #3, Administrative Comments
Zoning Administrator, Karen Gandy, informed the Commission that
there were no new cases to be considered at the next regular P & Z
meeting.
Agenda Item #4, ZA 91 -75, Rezoning, AG to SF -20A, G Development
Zoning Administrator, Karen Gandy, presented the zoning change
request for a 19.995 acre tract of land out of the L.B.G. Hall
Survey, Abstract No. 686, Tracts 3F and 3G from "AG" Agricultural
to "SF -20A" Single Family -20A. Ms. Gandy informed the Commission
that seventeen (17) notices were sent to property owners within 200
feet. Eight (8) written responses were received of which five (5)
were within 200 feet; one (1) in favor, T.F. Morton; four (4)
opposed, Roy Stacy, Rick Stacy, Ned Conner, Teresa Sivey. Three
other responses were received from citizens outside the 200 foot
radius: C.N. Leith, Gail and Joe Gregory, Larry Forney. A letter
in opposition was also received at tonight's meeting from John
Dyer.
Steve Gee, G. Development, applicant, informed the Commission that
they are proposing 28 single family lots on approximately 20 acres
with a 2.4 acre park and lake. Mr. Gee stated that most of the 2.4
acre park would be open space with a playground. Mr. Gee commented
that the trees would be surveyed, and they do not plan to lose any
due to development.
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January 23, 1992
Page 2
Mr. Gee also stated that they have provided for limited lots to be
near Rick Stacy's property line. Mr. Gee commented that the
entrance into their proposed subdivision off FM 1709 is planned to
mirror that of the Timber Lake Subdivision.
Brad Meyer, Carter & Burgess, engineers for the applicant, stated
that the pond would serve as a detention pond for run -off. Mr.
Meyer stated that they plan for the flow from the lake to be
maintained at the same flow rate after development as it is now.
They plan to clean, dredge out, and provide a piped outfall
structure with the pond. Run -off from northeast, east area would
be handled by a culvert under the road to the pond.
Public Hearing:
Roy Stacy, 320 N. Shady Oaks, is opposed to the zoning change
request because of drainage problems produced by more concrete and
roof tops. Roy Stacy stated that there is no way to contain the
run -off. He commented that Arvida has tried retention ponds and
they can not hold all the water generated by their subdivision.
Mr. Stacy also commented that this is a low density planned area
according to the City Master Plan, and this is not a low density
proposed subdivision.
Joe Gregory, is opposed to the zoning change request because of the
drainage problems. Mr. Gregory stated that the retention ponds in
Arvida do not work. His property is constantly flooded, and his
bar ditch is never dry.
Randy Stacy, 300 N. Shady Oaks, is opposed to the zoning change
request because of the drainage problems. Mr. Stacy stated that
all three ponds including the one on this property have been at
capacity for the last five (5) months. He also commented that this
is planned as a low density area. Mr. Stacy brought up that the
City park ballfields on White Chapel stay flooded now because of
the new Oak Hills Subdivision.
Diane Stacy, 1000 W. Southlake Blvd., is opposed to the zoning
request. She stated that the back part of her property is a rice
patty and this is not a low density plan.
Rick Stacy, 1000 W. Southlake, Blvd., is opposed to the zoning
request. Mr. Stacy stated that drainage is a major concern. He
believes the drainage needs to go underground. Most important to
Mr. Stacy is that the proposed project does not meet the low
density master plan.
John Dyer, 550 Ginger Ct., is opposed to the zoning request. Mr.
Dyer stated that a lot of promises were made by Arvida to regulate
the water. He stated that he can not see an improvement from
Arvida, and it would not be smart to approve this project until we
realize what went wrong with Arvida.
Dana Lawless, Ginger Ct., is opposed to the zoning request because
it does not meet the low density plan and will cause massive
drainage problems.
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January 23, 1992
Page 3
Gail Gregory, stated that she doesn't care what the studies say,
the retention ponds do not work and she is "living proof." Ms.
Gregory stated that the smallest amount of rain flows across her
drive and for several hours afterwards, and she believes this
project will compound the problem.
Meryl Stacy, 320 Shady Oaks, is opposed to the zoning request
because it does not meet the low density requirement. Ms. Stacy
stated that they were led to believe the area would be developed as
one acre.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Commissioner Wright commented that a couple of problems that exist
out there are due to (1) Ginger Creek developers never made the
drainage channel improvements in Ginger Creek as they had
originally planned; and (2) The box culvert under FM 1709 is not
adequate to serve the water that comes through the creek. Some of
the problems were not caused by Arvida.
Mr. Wright commented that he felt the Commission did not have
enough information about the drainage problems to address this
zoning request. Mr. Wright suggested that the developer and his
engineers meet with the City staff, get with Joe Gregory's engineer
to gather more information.
Commissioner Tate questioned staff whether or not they were aware
of what Arvida was doing on Rick Stacy's property. City Planner,
Greg Last, stated that he was unaware of any arrangements made
between Arvida and Mr. Stacy.
Steve Gee expressed that they would be happy to meet with staff and
discuss the drainage issues. Mr. Gee requested the Commission
table this item until the drainage issue could be addressed.
Commissioner McGrath stated that he believes that whoever develops
a piece of property should take care of the water they create. He
believes the water should be drained down street "A" out to FM
1709. Mr. Wright noted that this would be difficult due to grades
required for the street.
Diane Stacy commented (from the audience) that Ginger Court had the
plans approved by the City and didn't follow -up on it so that
created a problem; Arvida had a plan approved by the City and
didn't follow -up on it so that created a problem; and Arvida came
to us and said to us that the "City has approved this plan going
through your property; this is what we want to do; is this
alright ?" She questioned where the follow up is and where is their
assurance.
Commissioner Wright explained that today the City's engineering
staff and the inspector are full time, and they check and see that
those plans are followed.
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January 23, 1992
Page 4
Commissioner McGrath expressed that we have to be aware that this
is happening everywhere. We have had an unusual amount of rain in
the last 3 years.
Motion was made to table ZA 91 -76 and continue the Public Hearing
time certain February 6, 1992, and request staff to do a thorough
study of water both from Arvida and this proposed development and
its impact; find out what is going on behind Rick Stacy's property
and how it effects Ginger Court, as well as the impact on the south
side of 1709; and also have the developers work on their property
and work with the adjoining properties as necessary to make sure
the engineers show the full impact.
Motion: McGrath
Second: Apple
Ayes: Tate, Samartin, Wright, Richarme, McGrath, Apple
Nays: None
Approved (to table): 6 -0
Agenda Item #5, ZA 91 -76, Preliminary Plat, Pecan Lakes, G Devlp.
Steve Gee, G. Development, requested the Commission table this item
until the next meeting.
Motion was made to table ZA 91 -76 time certain February 6, 1992.
Motion: McGrath
Second: Richarme
Ayes: Tate, Samartin, Wright, Richarme, McGrath, Apple
Nays: None
Approved (to table): 6 -0
Agenda Item #6, Revisions Masonry Ordinance Nos. 311 and 415
Zoning Administrator, Karen Gandy, presented to the Commission the
proposed revisions to the masonry ordinances repealing Ordinance
Nos. 311 and 415. Ms. Gandy explained she attempted to clarify the
existing provisions, update the name of applicable zoning
districts, and revise certain administrative functions in the
approval process. Ms. Gandy went through each proposed revision
with the Commission.
Motion was made to approve the proposed Ordinance No. 557 revisions
to Masonry Ordinance Nos. 311 and 415, subject to: delete Section
1, paragraph C; paragraph F, change FM 1709, SH 26, and FM 1938 to
300' rather than 500'; Section 2, paragraph 4, Planned Industrial
Park be deleted; and, all references that the City Attorney, Mr.
Olson, requested to be included to be included.
Motion: Richarme
Second: Apple
Ayes: Tate, Samartin, Wright, Richarme, McGrath, Apple
Nays: none
Approved: 6 -0
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January 23, 1992
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Agenda Item #7, Adjournment.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Chair an, Joe Wrig
ATTEST:
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