1992-03-19 P&Z Meeting CITY OF SOUTHLAKE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
March 19, 1992 7:30 p.m.
MINUTES
Commissioners Present: Chairman, Joe Wright; Members: Lanny Tate,
Bob Dowdy, Michael Richarme, and Dennis McGrath.
Commissioners Absent: Larry Samartin
City Staff Present: Zoning Administrator, Karen Gandy; City
Planner, Greg Last; Planning Intern, Tom Elgin; and Secretary to
the City Manager, Kim Bush.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Joe Wright at 7:30 p.m.
Agenda Item #2, Approval of Minutes
Motion was made to approve the minutes of the March 5, 1992 P &Z
Meeting as presented.
Motion: McGrath
Second: Richarme
Ayes: Tate, Wright, Dowdy, Richarme, McGrath
Nays: none
Approved: 5 -0
Agenda Item #3, Administrative Comments
There were no comments from staff or the Commission.
Commissioner Wright stepped down for the remainder of the meeting
and requested that Commissioner Tate chair the meeting in his
absence.
Agenda Item #4, ZA 92 -03, Zoning /Concept Plan, Timarron
Zoning Administrator, Karen Gandy, presented the zoning change
request for two parcels of land from "AG" Agricultural to "R-
P.U.D." Residential Planned Unit Development. Parcel "A" is
legally described as 10.932 acres in the Hall Medlin Survey,
Abstract No. 1038, Tract 2F and Parcel "B" is legally described as
1.008 acres in the John N. Gibson Survey, Abstract No. 591, Tract
1B1. The rezoning would increase the acreage of the project from
902.80 acres to 914.74 acres. Ms. Gandy stated that the revised
concept plan is proposed to meet the 2.18 du /ac and represents the
following changes:
•Tract A added to the P.U.D.
•Tract B changed from open space to C -3 for golf club house
•Tract C changed from C -2 uses to residential uses
•Tract D changed from open space to Golf Course
•Tract E added to the P.U.D.
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Ms. Gandy further stated that sixty -seven (67) notices were sent to
surrounding property owners, and five (5) written responses were
received: three in favor (E- Systems, Norman J. Brown, Barbara
Rudduck); one opposed (Noah Pond); and 1 undecided (Lois O'Dair).
Susan Evans, President Timarron Land Corporation, introduced: Steve
Yetes, Project Engineer; Don Allen and Phil Deaton with Carter and
Burgess, consulting engineers; and, Phil Weller, attorney. Ms.
Evans stated that they are proposing a "Byron Nelson" high - quality
Golf Course design. She stated that the lake is designed to catch
runoff which will be used to irrigate the golf course. Ms. Evans
further informed the Commission that they have no problems with
City staff's review letter.
There were no comments from the audience during the Public Hearing.
Commissioner McGrath expressed his concern with the changes shown
on the concept plan particularly the location of the school and the
change on the alignment of the proposed internal street from FM
1709 to Continental Blvd. Commissioner McGrath also questioned the
lots along the floodway.
City Planner, Greg Last, stated that FEMA will regulate the control
of the floodway. Plans will have to be processed through FEMA, and
this will be done at the final plat and construction plan review
phase.
Commissioner Richarme commented that he did not have a problem with
the proposed road shown on the concept plan and suggested that the
site proposed for the school be moved to the intersection of the
proposed road and Continental Blvd. Commissioner Richarme
commented that he understands Commissioner McGrath's concerns
because once you get something on paper it tends to stay that way.
Motion was made to approve ZA 92 -03 with the recommendation that
the proposed internal street from FM 1709 to Continental Blvd.
remain the same as shown on the previous concept plan, the site for
the proposed school be moved to the intersection of the proposed
road and Continental Blvd, and approval subject to compliance with
City staff's review letter dated 3/13/1992.
Motion: McGrath
Second: Richarme
The Commissioners further discussed the impact a concept plan
has on the overall process of the development of a project.
Commissioner Tate explained that even though this was a
concept plan he did not want to send a "recommendation" to the
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Council stating that this is where the school site is to be
located.
Ms. Evans commented that they have proposed this type of road
to help slow traffic down through the community, but she could
live with leaving the road as previously planned. She also
commented that they intend to work with the school district on
planning for the best location for the proposed elementary
school, and she would have no problem leaving if off the plan
at this point entirely.
Second was withdrawn by Richarme and Motion was withdrawn by
McGrath.
Motion was made to approve ZA 92 -03 with the recommendation that
the proposed internal street from FM 1709 to Continental Blvd.
remain the same as shown on the previous concept plan, remove the
designation of the proposed school site, and recommend approval
subject to compliance with City staff's review letter dated
3/13/1992.
Motion: McGrath
Second: Richarme
Ayes: Tate, Dowdy, Richarme, McGrath
Nays: None
Approved: 4 -0
Agenda Item #5, ZA 92 -04, Development site Plan, Timarron
Zoning Administrator, Karen Gandy, presented the Development Site
Plan for Timarron, Phase III, being 300.82 acres out of the Hall
Medlin Survey, Abstract No. 1037, the Hollingsworth and Barnett
Survey, Abstract No. 797, the 0.W. Knight Survey, Abstract No. 899,
and the M. Davenport Survey, Abstract No. 432. Ms. Gandy stated
that the plan proposes 315 residential lots on 139.92 acres and a
club house and golf course on 168.81 acres of land with an overall
density of 2.25 du /ac in Phase III. Ms. Gandy stated that sixty -
seven (67) notices were sent and four (4) responses were received:
two (2) in favor, E- Systems and Norman J. Brown; one (1) opposed,
Noah B. Pond; and, one (1) undecided, Lois E. O'Dair.
Susan Evans, President of Timarron Land Corporation, was available
to answer questions for the Commission. Ms. Evans stated that
they have met the overall density requirement of the zoning
ordinance, and they have no problems with staff's review letter.
Commissioner McGrath stated that the lots are too small, and he
does not feel that this fits in with the country atmosphere of
Southlake.
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Commissioner Richarme expressed concern regarding proposed Street
"E" because it crosses a floodway, and he questioned whether
emergency vehicles would be able to get through should the road
ever flood.
Don Allen, Timarron engineering representative, commented that the
road would be built to FEMA standards and City requirements, and he
also commented that they would be willing to provide a 40' wide
street and 60' R.O.W. through this area.
Commissioner Richarme questioned the C -3 zoning of the golf course
club house site and the fact that only 1/2 of the land area is
designated for the club.
Ms. Evans commented that at this time they do not have any plans.
In the future, they may need to expand the club house, or the
parking lot, or swimming pool, etc. Ms. Evans agreed to commit
to a more specific scope of use on the zoning.
Commissioner Richarme expressed his concern with product type "D"
lots stating that once you start putting this type in there is the
potential for a vast number more to be put in. Commissioner
Richarme stated that he does not believe the City of Southlake
wants to see a high density housing development in Southlake.
Both Commissioner Richarme and McGrath commented that they would
prefer the golf course included, but they are not willing to use as
bargaining chip for smaller lots.
There were no comments during the Public Hearing.
Karen Gandy, Zoning Administrator, informed the Commission of the
two (2) written comments received from Aloha Payne and Carol Lee
Hamilton regarding the project and submitted copies to the
Commission.
Chairman Tate suggested that a work session be scheduled with
Timarron applicants to discuss the plan in more detail.
Susan Evans requested that the Commission table ZA 92 -04,
Development Site Plan until the next meeting.
Motion was made to table ZA 92 -04 and continue the public hearing
at the request of the applicant time certain April 9.
Motion: Richarme
Second: Dowdy
Ayes: Tate, Dowdy, Richarme
Nays: McGrath
Approved (to table): 3 -1
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Agenda Item #6, ZA 92 -05, Preliminary Plat, Timarron, Phase III
Susan Evans requested that ZA 92 -05 be tabled until the next P &Z
Meeting.
Motion was made to table ZA 92 -05 and continue the public hearing
at the request of the applicant time certain April 9.
Motion: Richarme
Second: Dowdy
Ayes: Tate, Dowdy, Richarme
Nays: McGrath
Approved (to table): 3 -1
Agenda Item #7, ZA 92 -06, Preliminary Plat, Timarron, Golf Course
Susan Evans requested that ZA 92 -06 be tabled until the next P &Z
Meeting.
Motion was made to table ZA 92 -06 and continue the public hearing
at the request of the applicant time certain April 9.
Motion: Richarme
Second: Dowdy
Ayes: Tate, Dowdy, Richarme, McGrath
Nays: none
Approved (to table): 4 -0
Commissioner Dowdy commented that he felt projects should be
judged on a case by case basis. He believes the Commission
needs to keep in mind the whole project. In this case, the
proposed smaller lots are completely surrounded by a golf
course. What is approved for this project will not
necessarily be approved for other projects unless they offer
the same type of layout -- percent of coverage, amenities, etc.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Lanny Ta e, Chairman
ATTEST:
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i Bush, Secretary to the
'ity Manager
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