Item 7A (3)Hines/Carillon ProposalZA08-31
Briefing Team:
Kathleen V. Simpson
Marvin Williams
Karen Whitaker
D. Todd Parrish
Neighborhoods consulted:
N. Carroll
N. White Chapel
Brentwood
Primrose Lane
Estes Park
Triple C
Whispering Dell
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Dr. Kathleen V. Simpson104 Brentwood CircleSouthlake, TX 76092(Brentwood)19 month residentFormer Deputy Director for Readiness, P&A Office of the Secretary of DefenseFormer Air
Force Wife VolunteerIncoming Southlake HOA President
Hines/Carillon Proposal
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Surrounding Neighborhood Impact
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Unified concern
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Rating the Suburbs--“2. Southlake”
“Locals believe the restrictions placed on home builders (few lots are less than half an acre, no apartments or condos) will keep their investment safe.”
D Magazine July 2008
Best Places to Live 2008—25 Top Earning Towns
“12. Southlake, TX”
Population: 25,748
Median family income: $166,878
Median home price: $542,640
Source: http://money.cnn.com/
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Is Southlake changing focus?
Surrounding neighbors and those outside 200 foot buffer oppose current plan
Zoning change goes beyond Carillon project:
Approval as designed sets precedent for shift to high density developments vice current Southlake vision
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Neighbors are concerned
Majority of acreage homeowners surrounding the Carillon/Hines project are opposed to current proposal
Surrounding Property Owners within 200 foot boundary:
102 total= 239.21 acres; acreage within buffer=75.86
26.14% of acreage formally opposed to force super majority vote
Many Southlake residents outside buffer oppose due to high residential density
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The site will be developed
City Council:
Ensure citizen’s voices are heard
Ensure developers’ profit maximization goal does not outweigh homeowners’ goals
Ensure property is developed in sync with current Southlake
Low density housing
Attractive, stable, confirmed retail and commercial
Green buffers
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Hines responsible to balance their goals with homeowners’ goals
Density of residential portion
Infrastructure
Drainage
Traffic
Green Buffers
Lack of firm commitments from patrons to sponsor Fine Arts center, uncertainty about details of commercial/retail sector
School impact
Construction impact
Density
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Sources: http://taxoffice.tarrantcounty.com/accountsearch.asp
http://www.southlakechamber.org/
Surrounding neighborhoods
Density
Violates Southlake’s low density vector
Extreme crowding
154 residential acres/455 units =.34 acres per unit average ~ 2.95 units per acre average
Should be:
No “attached” housing
Appropriate balance between “zero lot” line residences and “Estate” lots
All acreages IAW existing Southlake status quo
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Infrastructure-Drainage
Severe problem
Need drainage impact study
Need drainage issues resolved PRIOR to development
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Infrastructure-Traffic
N. Carroll & N. White Chapel already saturated
Should use SH114 service road for primary access
Limit access/egress from N. Carroll or N. White Chapel
Two lane roads on either side to support traffic for 285 acreage population; sharp contrast to the 4 & 6 lane roads which support Town Square’s 131 acres
Road infrastructure improvements must be made PRIOR to development
Impacts of widening N. Carroll & N. White Chapel—land already developed; where does space come from?
Brentwood Circle used as “turnaround”
Traffic impact study appears understated; model assumptions unclear
Design concerns
Landscaping-a visitor’s first impression of Southlake is the attractive landscaping with green buffers
Need green buffers on all sides; no existing neighbors should face new stone walls or large building exteriors
Need to save mature trees
“Park” area as designed is for Carillon neighborhood use, not Southlake community use; defeats intent of “donating” acreage to the Southlake, yet adds to Southlake maintenance costs
Fine Arts Center sounds nice:
No firm commitment from fine arts patrons to build/support a fine arts center
Southlake taxpayers should not be forced to pay for site without secure backing
Construction- Extended period proposed = multi-year disturbance
Firm construction plan needed to alleviate noise, traffic, trash, etc.
Consider special ordinance governing construction hours; standard code allowing construction 7:00 a.m. to 9 p.m. Monday through Saturday is too unfettered and places undue, extended
burdens on surrounding homeowners
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Key uncertainties
School impact – 400+ new Dragons
Stress on water supply; worse in drought
Carillon complementary or competition with Town Square?
Preservation of cemetery
Lack of communication/coordination between developers and homeowners:
Concerns voiced but not addressed
P&Z commission “noted” citizen concerns
“Build it, they will come” perception—need solid research
Current economic environment--is this the right plan, right time to proceed?
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How to reach balance between developer & homeowners?
Limit residential building to 92-205 units
Largest: 154 acres x 1.68 average = 92 units
Average: 154 acres x .99 = 156 units
Smallest: 154 acres x .75 = 205 units
Develop road & drainage infrastructure prior to build out
Drain impact study by Hines
Traffic impact study by Hines
Include green buffers on east, north, west perimeters
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How to reach balance between developer & homeowners?
Expand SH114 access to be primary access point
Site hotel in center of retail, away from existing residences
Maintain ownership of floodplain; don’t pass to Southlake taxpayers-at-large to maintain
Obtain firm sponsor commitment on Fine Arts Center
Mandate developer/homeowner/City interface process throughout development to ensure concerns can be addressed by appropriate Southlake authority
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Summary
Decision on ZA08-031 decides the future “essence” of Southlake—it is not simply a Carillon decision
Majority of surrounding homeowners oppose current plan
Personal stake for homeowners
Business investment for Hines; walks away once done.
Surrounding homeowners will have to live with result, good or bad.
Many serious concerns remain
Still too many loose ends and unknowns for a rational decision
“Trust, but verify”
Community’s History with Site
Mr. Marvin Williams
1525 N. Carroll Ave
Southlake, TX 76092
(Whispering Dell)
15 year resident,
Dragon parent, Harold Williams #78 ’03, Princeton ‘07
Senior Executive, Waste Water & Transit Development, worldwide
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History
Four developers
Exxon Mobil Land Corporation
Aventerra II
Newland Communities
Hines
Original City Council Decision
Commercial Zoning
Density
N. Carroll Avenue setbacks
Never a community consensus
SPIN meetings
P&Z meetings
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Texas History
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Infrastructure-Drainage
Review Hines current drainage plan
Drainage Impact Study needed
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Transportation-current conditions
Commuting traffic
Local School traffic
Construction traffic
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N. White Chapel Southbound
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N. White Chapel Northbound
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N. Carroll Northbound
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N. Carroll Southbound
Southlake Citizens United-ZA08-031 affects homeowners across Southlake
Mrs. Karen Whitaker
505 San Juan Drive Southlake TX 76092
(Mission Hill Estates)
7 Year resident
Dragon parent,’19,’22
PTO Board Member, School Volunteer,
HOA President, Community Volunteer
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Southlake Homeowner(Not bordering Carillon)
Why we moved to Southlake
Concerns with proposal
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2025 Plan-Southlake Development Goals
Encourage neighborhood design that complements existing development patterns while creating unique places. creation of well-designed, appropriately-scaled residential neighborhoods.
Ensure that new growth is in accordance and in harmony with the Land Use Plan and population build-out numbers.
Maintain a balanced approach to growth and development in order to preserve the city assets (schools, public safety, and competitive edge in the region) and its fiscal health.
Provide for the incorporation of high quality single-family residential uses as a part of a planned development at appropriate transitional locations.
Encourage development that complements existing residential development
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Summation
Mr. D. Todd Parrish
1313 Bay Meadows
Southlake, TX 76092
(Triple C Ranch)
3 year resident
Dragon Parent, ‘18, ‘22, &’25
Vice President, HOA
Attorney
“From the inside you can’t really explain it,” and from the outside looking in, you’ll never understand.”
Todd Dodge - D Magazine September 2007.
One Word . . .
Density
160 units are on 1/10th acre or less
226 units are on 1/5th acre or less
379 units on .27 acres or less
Only 76 units are on lots over 1/3 acre and those, are just barely 1/3 acre lots; and
all 455 units are on lots under .40 acres
Who Will Listen?
Not Hines
Not P&Z
Not Chamber of Commerce
Will you, our elected officials?