Item 7A (3)Hines/Carillon Proposal ZA08-31
Briefing Team:
Kathleen V. Simpson
Jason Whitmire
Doug Harsy
D. Todd Parrish
Neighborhoods consulted:
N. Carroll
N. White Chapel
Brentwood
Primrose Lane
Estes Park
Triple C Ranch
Whispering Dell
Mission Estates
Kirkwood Hollow
Carroll Meadows
Lonesome Dove Estates
Highland Estates
Neighborhoods Consulted:
Timarron
St. Emillion
Coventry
The Reserve
Highland Estates
Hunters Ridge
Homes on Sunshine Lane
Homes on East Highland
Homes on North Kimball
Homes on East Dove (between Carroll &Kimball)
Homes on Stan Hope Ct
Neighborhoods Alerted:
Diamond Circle Estates
Lakewood Acres
Southview
Oak Hill
Homes on Highland
Homes on Summerplace
Chapel Downs
Foxborough
Reveneaux
Fox Hollow
Princeton Park
Timberlake
SouthRidge
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Dr. Kathleen V. Simpson 104 Brentwood Circle Southlake, TX 76092 (Brentwood Estates) 20 month resident Former Deputy Director for Readiness, P&A Office of the Secretary of Defense Former
Air Force Wife Volunteer Brentwood HOA President
Hines/Carillon Proposal
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Surrounding Neighborhood Impact
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Unified concern
Homeowners Recap
200 foot buffer neighbors and those outside oppose current plan
Sets precedent for shift to high density developments -- zoning change goes beyond Carillon
Pro Development
Need balance between business goals & homeowner goals
Need top quality showpiece for Southlake
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Concerns
Density of residential portion
Infrastructure—Traffic & Drainage
Green Buffers
School impact synchronization
Construction impact
Lack of firm commitments from patrons to sponsor Fine Arts center, uncertainty about details of commercial/retail sector
Big Picture Economy—right time?
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Hines has not been responsive-1
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Hines has not been responsive-2
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Hines has not been responsive-3
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Hines has not been responsive-4
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Hines has not been responsive-5
Homeowners have asked to meet
Want input to process
Want meaningful discussion
Hines wants to meet after submittals
Preview only
No opportunity to discuss a balance of concerns
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What we want…
Density
No attached housing
Ballpark of 300 homes total
Balance between estate lots and units formerly known as zero lot homes
Acreages and lot to house size ratios IAW status quo
Infrastructure
N. Carroll & N. White Chapel saturated
Should use SH114 service road for primary access
Limit access/egress from N. Carroll or N. White Chapel
Road infrastructure improvements made PRIOR to development
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What we want…
Infrastructure
Drainage impact study
Drainage resolved PRIOR to development
Landscaping
Green buffers on all sides
Save mature trees
Carillon maintain all “Park” areas—no donation to City
Fine Arts Center
Eliminate unless firm commitment from patrons up front
Construction- multi-year disturbance
Firm construction plan
Agreement governing construction hours; standard code of 7:00 a.m. to 9 p.m. Monday through Saturday too unfettered
No construction traffic allowed on N. Carroll or N. White Chapel
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What we want…
Slow the train down
Engage a meaningful dialogue with developer
Create multi-disciplinary working group to address the concerns
Hines
Homeowners
City
CISD
Chamber of commerce
Get all the facts for a rational decision
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What we ask of the Council
Table this proposal
Request Hines participate in working group
Develop timetable for group milestones
Take the time to let all the issues get addressed prior to a public vote
Brownstones took approx 11 months to gain approval
Why rush this project through in 3-4 months?
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Rating the Suburbs--“2. Southlake”
“Locals believe the restrictions placed on home builders (few lots are less than half an acre, no apartments or condos) will keep their investment safe.”
D Magazine July 2008
What we hope
Keep in sight:
The essence of Southlake
Make developers adapt to Southlake, not Southlake to developers
Hines has good reputation
But, there are other developers
Have the confidence to say no
“Make us to choose the harder right instead of the easier wrong, and never to be content with a half truth when the whole truth can be won.”
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Community Impact - ZA08-031 sets precedent across Southlake
Mr. Jason Whitmire
2012 Woodbine Circle
Southlake TX 76092
(Triple C Ranch)
3 Year resident
Dragon parent,’21
Accountant
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Southlake Citizens United - ZA08-031 affects homeowners across Southlake
Mr. Douglas Harsy
2804 Tyler Street
Southlake TX 76092
(Kirkwood Hollow)
6.5 Year resident
Dragon parent,’19,’22
Owner, Durable Medical Equipment Company
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Why We Live in Southlake
Great School System
Large Residential Lots
Strong Sense of Community
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Why We Chose to Live North of Highway 114
Large Open Residential Lots
Sense of Rural Feel
Great Opportunity for Development
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How do We Maintain the Great Standards of Southlake?
Maintain the Large Residential Lots
Allow and Require Input from the Community
Table proposal & direct working group
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Summation
Mr. D. Todd Parrish
1313 Bay Meadows
Southlake, TX 76092
(Triple C Ranch)
3 year resident
Dragon Parent, ‘18, ‘22, &’25
Vice President, HOA
Attorney
Questions/Issues Which Remain to be Answered - 1
Density
Nothing done in Chateaux District
Lot sizes in Chateaux District
Issues re: Offices/Lofts/makeup of attached units
Number of zero lot line lots
Infrastructure
Kirkwood Blvd – when will City connect from S. Side of Carillon to Highland
Carroll
White Chapel
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Questions/Issues Which Remain to be Answered - 2
Traffic
Inside Carillon
Outside Carillon
Construction Management
Hours of construction
Entrances
CISD
Not City issue but . . .
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