Item 6 - SPIN Report
SPIN MEETING REPORT
SPIN Item Number: SPIN2025-05
City Case Number: ZA25-0028
Project Name: Carroll Senior High School (1501 W. Southlake Blvd.)
SPIN Neighborhood: 10
Meeting Date: May 13, 2025
Meeting Location: 1400 Main Street, Southlake, TX
City Council Chambers
Total Attendance: 15
Hosts: Ryan Firestone
Applicant Presenting: Lanny Mooney
City Staff Present: Ryan Firestone, Planning Technician
FORUM SUMMARY:
Property Situation: 1501 W. Southlake Blvd.
Development Details:
• Proposing a zoning change related to fencing requirements for Carroll Senior High
School.
Presentation:
Comments, Questions, and Concerns:
Q: What are you proposing to do with the fence?
A: Replace the back fence on the 17 lots (East property line of the school’s property).
Q: Are you going to replace the fence?
A: Yes.
Q: Maintain it?
A: We would like for us to not have to maintain it and replace it anymore into perpetuity.
Q: It’s on your property, correct?
A: I don’t think so.
Q: So, if it is on your property, it is your responsibility?
A: It could be. But we don’t have to maintain it.
C: But you haven’t done that for the last 20 years.
A: Sorry guys, I have only been here for about six months so I can’t answer for that.
Q: The school wanted variance, height, and closer to our neighbor. Did we not let you allow
that?
A: Yes sir.
Q: In agreement that you take care of the property and the fence?
A: Yes sir.
C: And now you want to crawfish. This is ridiculous! No, Mr. Mayor and Council people, No! The
school does not take care of that property at all and when we make phone calls there are
crickets.
C: Two issues I have with the comments you made is that perpetuity does not equate to 25+
years. That’s not what perpetuity means. The second issue I have is that you’re saying that by
now all of the trees have grown. Actually, to my knowledge the school still hasn’t fulfilled their
commitment in planting all of the trees that were promised. So, I can tell you that when I drive
up to my house, it looks like I have a UFO in the back of my house when all of the lights are on.
I feel like my neighbors and myself have made a lot of concessions, not because we agree with
them, but because we have been forced to agree to them. I am hoping that coming here tonight
with my neighbors means that we are heard.
C: *Recounts previous city council meetings regarding the original approval... No, the school
system should continue to maintain this fence in perpetuity as agreed upon in prior meetings.
Q: Who are you representing, Carroll ISD?
A: Yes sir.
Q: What does the zoning change exactly mean? Is it just about the fence or is it a zoning
change? (i.e. commercial, retail, etc.)
A: The only thing we’ve asked for is the fence. We’re going to repair the fence that is in the
variance. The only thing that we have asked for is for it to not be in perpetuity. We have not
changed any classifications or anything like that.
C: When the fence was repaired and put back up the last time, it was actually moved onto
school property.
A: That’s fine. It’s our fence and we intend to replace that in July.
Q: So, starting in July are you proposing then that the fence is moved back?
A: No, we’ll put it back exactly. We’re going to use the same poles that are there if they’re in
good shape.
C: I don’t see how we can be responsible for maintaining something that is on school property.
Q: Did you go back and review the history of everything?
A: The only thing I got is what I got from the city and then another person was able to send me
some good information on the backstory.
Q: Which board members asked you to do this because I’d like to talk to them as well?
A: I don’t know who sent me up.
Q: From what I understand you guys are going to come in in June and July to fix the fence. Are
you going to fix it or rebuild it?
A: I am going to rebuild it.
Q: How much is this estimated to cost the school district?
A: About $40,000.
Q: How far lengthwise?
A: About 1100 feet.
Q: How much have you spent on maintenance on the fence since it’s been installed?
A: None in the six months.
C: It is not fair to you because you don’t have all the information, and they threw you out here to
all of these people that took the time to come out tonight. And you really haven’t provided all the
information they need to make a decision here and how we go.
C: *talking about how the neighbors were promised by the board that the lights for the
baseball/softball fields would be cutoff at 9pm when they were installed, but that has not been
the case. Also, the trees have not been landscaped and are falling on neighbors’ property.
C: We have allocated $30,000 over the next ten years to landscape and beautify stone lakes.
So, we’re doing our job to make the community look good. I know Southridge and Timberlake
are doing their jobs. I’d like to see the school district do it as well. So, if you could take it to the
board members I’d appreciate it.
A: I’ll take it back.
Q: When you replace the fence will it be an eight-foot fence?
A: Eight-foot cedar fence, just like in the variance, ma’am.
C: No one wants dead trees/limbs falling on any kids or on our property and so that’s one of the
issues as well as the lights further down in the neighborhood. The school district agreed to in
perpetuity, and words matter and so something has to be given to our community that’s
satisfactory.
A: I understand.
C: I actually sent you an email about three months ago and never heard back. We have a gate
that we put in the back fence when our son went to high school at Carroll many years ago. We
have been in this house for 33 years now and our gate was so bad becaus e the poles were not
stable and wouldn’t latch. We couldn’t close it. So, we went ahead and spent about $500 of our
own money because I never heard anything. It was a solution that we needed to have done
quickly. I just wanted to go on record as saying, others may have gotten responses, but I didn’t.
And not knowing what you were planning to do of replacing this fence in the summer.
A: I apologize. I don’t remember seeing another email from yourself or somebody, but it might
have happened, and I might have overlooked it, I apologize for that.
C: I also mentioned this massive dead tree and we back right up to it and see it every day when
we walk out in the backyard, and last year a great portion of it died. Now another big limb is
stuck up there in the tree and that really decreases our property values.
A: I’ll get it taken care of.
C: When my husband and I bought our property about six years ago, we were told that that
portion of the fence that backed into the high school was built by the high school, and that the
high school would take care of it in perpetuity. I just want to express that that is the expectation
that the high school will continue to maintain that fence in perpetuity.
C: Just one thing that I want to get off my mind. it's trust. you know, I don't have any warm and
fuzzy feelings about the school system as far as maintaining that property from day one. I
believe that you haven’t done anything to that backspace. Trimming, replacing trees, again if
you just go by and look at it. You said you walked it, did you not see all the dead trees that were
on the property? Did you not send anybody to trim any of the trees? Make sure everything’s
picked up. Garbage picked up from the kids that jog in the back? It’s just disgusting, the whole
back space and we all pay taxes. No, I am against it.
Q: Why is park place not involved in this? DO they not have the same fence?
A: It was eliminated at some time during some kind of negotiations. I couldn’t tell you why it’s
not.
C: The board as an entity should be trustworthy and have a commitment and realize that this is
what we signed up for. The natatorium is there. This was part of the deal. And by the way as
part of the natatorium they said, we won’t put up lights. Guess what happens. Oh, new board,
that wasn’t us. So, that is part of our frustration, is y’all come and go. We are here the whole
time and we see the changes. This is about trust and being a good neighbor. We need the
board to step up and actually honor their commitments.
Q: They’re going to replace the fence supposedly, are they going to maintain it?
A: Yes.
Q: What do you mean yes?
A: The answer is yes.
Q: Maintaining means what?
A: Well, we should take care of it, but are we going to stain it or seal it? No. We will put it up and
then we will keep it from falling or anything like that.
C: The variance says board on board fence, which is not what is up there now. You have to
maintain it. That means staining it otherwise it isn’t going to rot out from underneath you. I vote
no totally because you’re not trustworthy.
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Southlake Connect Results for May 13, 2025 SPIN Town Hall Forum