SPIN2024-03 - Brumlow EastUSOUTHLAKE
SPIN MEETING REPORT
SPIN Item Number: SPIN2024-03
City Case Number:
Project Name:
SPIN Neighborhood
Meeting Date:
Meeting Location:
Total Attendance:
ZA24-0007
Brumlow East
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February 27, 2024
1400 Main Street, Southlake, TX
City Council Chambers
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Hosts: Tracy Harrow
Applicant Presenting: Martin Schelling
City Staff Present: Madeline Prater, Business Manager
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FORUM SUMMARY:
Property Situation: 1535 Brumlow Ave.
Development Details:
Mixed Use Plan
• Residential
o Lot Sizes
■ 48 @ 50' x 137'
■ 6@60'x170'
■ 2 — Acre+ lots
o Number of Lots: 56
o Density: 2.18 lots/acre
• Commercial
o Office: 9,768 sq. ft. on 44,144 sq. ft.
o Office/Flex Space: 70,567 sq. ft. on 202,271 sq. ft.
Presentation:
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o Density: 2.18 lotslacre
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Online Comment, Questions, and Concerns Forms:
C: Full support of this project. Relieved it will be residential. Great to see the creek and green
space preserved.
Q: Is the green space going to be public for everyone to use? Or just for the residents to the lots
along the east?
A: We have not gotten that far, but I don't think the city wants to take this on as public open
space and park.
Q: Land to the southeast, will that remain open green space? This is partially floodplain space.
A: It is in the floodplain, so it will remain.
C: Concerned about the traffic on Brumlow and Continental
A: This might generate 560 trips a day for this project. Brumlow is slated to be widened in the
city's capital improvements program soon, with expected completion by 2028.
Q: What size homes are these going to be? Zero lot line? Price range for the houses and the
value for surrounding properties?
A: Lots adjacent to Tealwood are 60ft wide. Hart Ct. and commercial backup 50ft wide lots.
Pricing — less expensive than what we typically see in Southlake — but right now they are
programmed for 1.5 million. Minimum of 3,000 — 3,500 sq. ft.
Q: Traffic patterns are a bit of a challenge. Any plans to widen Continental? This proposition
was not warmly received years ago, and I want to make sure this is not warmly received now.
A: Majority of traffic will enter and exit on Brumlow. As far as Continental, I don't think there are
any plans in the capital improvement project for it.
Q: How big is the floodplain?
A: Open space is 13 acres.
C: So, it's 56 lots on 12 acres. So, the density is not 2 per acre. This is not a plan that will pass
through the Planning and Zoning Commission. It's too dense. Might be good to rethink this plan
and lessen the number of units.
Q: Can you reiterate why this type of development is needed in Southlake?
A: We think this provides great variety and diversity of home products in the city.
C: I understand Tealwood, but I don't understand this. My fear is this sets a precedent in
Southlake for more transitional lots. This doesn't seem like Southlake.
C: The green space is swamp land right now — I hope plans for this area include proper draining
and turning it into something functional. A true green space.
A: It'll be functional open space.
C: Make lots sizes bigger — quarter acres lots.
C: I like the concept; I don't like the density.
Q: Will there be an entrance and exit on the Continental side?
A: Yes, it'll be functional.
Q: Will there be a stoplight or something out on Brumlow or Continental?
A: No.
Q: Two lots on the right-hand side — how do people access those?
A: The lot on the north will have a private drive. The lot on the south will have a box culvert and
a private road.
Q: Joe Wright's land on the opposite side of Brumlow — how many acres is that?
A: Maybe 15 acres.
C: Biggest concern is the lots are too small, so if you let this in then it'll allow this size into other
places.
Q: So, you don't have to ask for any variances for this project?
A: I'm not sure yet, we have submitted and received comments but there shouldn't be anything
needed.
App: On the land use plan this is designated as Industrial, so this is a down zoning for the area
Industrial would be way denser, and higher rates of impervious coverage.
C: This build out would be considered high density
Q: Can you build on the green space?
A: Yes, we could. But we would have to channelize it.
Q: When you calculate the density, you are using the whole space to get 2.18?
A: That is the regulation in the Transitional Zoning District ordinance. That is how you calculate
your density. For mixed use, you can amortize your lots across the property.
App: Amortize 56 lots over the property minus the commercial equals 2.18. We typically
calculate it this way.
Q: Is the Wright Family proposing this development? Or have they sold this property to a
developer?
A: This property is still under the Wright family, since I have a relationship with the family, I'm a
partner in the project and will be taking lead on it.
Q: Have there been instances in the past where the city has required developers to foot the bill
for something the city would do later? Like a reimbursement agreement?
A: Typically, when a developer builds a road, it is through an earned credit with retail (ad
valorem taxes plus sales tax). We don't qualify to receive this credit.
C: Disappointed with the width size of the lots. Would like to see this less dense
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and questions raised by residents and the general responses made. Responses as summarized in this report should not be taken as
guarantees by the applicant. Interested parties are strongly encouraged to follow the case through the Planning and Zoning
Commission and final action by City Council.
SPIN Town Hall Forum Online Question and Comment Forms Received
2/27/24, 4:41 PM
SPIN Mtg t.: ht
Tue 2/27/2024 4:13 PM
To:Madeline Prater <mprater@ci.southlake. tx.us>
Mail - Madeline Prater - Outlook
Hi Madeline,
Please provide this information to the SPIN mtg tonight.
I have lived in my home, which is just off Continental Avenue, in the South Hollow neighborhood for 20+
yea rs.
Please do not add any more homes or businesses that would add any more traffic to Continental Ave.
The traffic on Continental is already very bad and often dangerous. There are often frustrated drivers
darting in an out, and recently, some people who must have moved here from outside of Texas have
been honking their horns for non -essential reasons.
Please do not add any more homes or businesses that would add any more cars on Continental Ave for
the safety and sanity of those who already live here.
Thank vou much.
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