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1998-03-09 "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 CITY OF SOUTHLAKE 2 PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING 3 4 March 9,1998 5 6 MINUTES 7 8 Board Members Present: Bobby Rawls, Robin Jones, Chris Miltenberger, Doug Fierce, 9 Carol Lee Hamilton, Richard Anderson, Sherry Berman. 10 11 Board Members Absent: Cara White, Vicki Johnson. 12 13 City Staff Present: Kim Lenoir, Director of Parks and Recreation; Teddi R. Zonker, 14 Administrative Secretary; Ben Henry, Park Planning and Construction Superintendent; 15 Kevin Hugman, Community Services Manager. 16 17 18 The meeting was called to order at 6:45 p.m. by Vice-Chair Doug Fierce. 19 20 Agenda Item No. 8 - approved to be moved up within the agenda. 21 22 Agenda Item No. 8, Park Dedication for SouthRidge Lakes Commercial Development - 23 Jones informed the Board that she would not discuss or vote on this item. 24 25 John Levitt, J.E. Levitt Engineers, Inc., 726 Commerce, Suite 104, Southlake, on behalf of 26 Four Peaks Development approached the Board with the request for approval to pay a fee of 27 $6,976 in lieu of park dedication for this 8.72 acre development. Levitt stated that parks 28 were dedicated by SouthRidge Lakes Residential Developments. 29 30 Motion was made to accept the fee payment of $6,976 in lieu of park dedication. 31 Motion: Miltenberger 32 Second: Rawls 33 Ayes: Rawls, Miltenberger, Fierce, Anderson, Berman 34 Nays: None 35 Abstain: Jones 36 Approved: 5-0-1 37 38 Agenda Item No. 2, Administrative Comments - Miltenberger inquired about the website 39 update. Hugman stated that Zonker has made all changes on paper and that he will be 40 working on updating the site. Zonker stated that she would be glad to learn how to update 41 the site for the department. 42 43 Fierce inquired about receiving a copy of the management study of the Parks Department 44 and Lenoir agreed. Hugman stated that the report may not be ready mid-year, but the Board 45 would receive a copy. 46 Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 1 of 11 \\slksv0001 \shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\030998.doc "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 Fierce inquired about SGSA in regard to recycling and Lenoir stated that Berman agreed to 2 contact the association. 3 4 Miltenberger stated that the youth basketball program went great. 5 6 Fierce inquired if a response was received from Carswell Officials Association upon 7 receiving our letter. Staff stated that no letter was received. 8 9 Agenda Item No. 3, Public Forum - No comments from the public or Board. Public forum 10 was closed at 6:52. 11 12 Hamilton entered the meeting- 6:53 p.m. 13 14 Consent: 15 16 Agenda Item No. 4, Approval of Minutes for February 9, 1998 Regular Park Board Meeting 17 - Page 5 of 17, line 9 - Berman stated that she did vote for the motion and Hamilton stated 18 that she (Hamilton) was the Nay. 19 20 Agenda Item No. 5, Bicentennial Park water tower fence - material color selection - Miami 21 Buff was the color recommended by staff. The Board agreed. 22 23 Motion to approved the items on the consent agenda as amended. 24 25 Motion: Miltenberger 26 Second: Jones 27 Ayes: Rawls, Jones, Miltenberger, Fierce, Hamilton, Anderson, Berman 28 Nays: None 29 Approved: 7-0 30 31 Consider: 32 33 Agenda Item No. 7, approved to be moved up within the agenda. 34 35 Agenda Item No. 7, Placement of Log Cabin at Bicentennial Park - Aloha Payne, President 36 of Southlake Historical Society, stated that they have disassembled many of the logs and 37 they are ready to place the cabin in Bicentennial Park near the KSB waterscape and pine 38 trees. Payne stated that she spoke with Lisa Stokdyk, President of Keep Southlake Beautiful 39 (KSB), and Stokdyk approves the location. Payne stated they will try to rebuild the cabin as 40 it was originally. Payne stated that the cabin was built in 1865 and was inhabited until the 41 1940s. Payne stated that the residents that she has talked to would like the cabin saved. 42 43 Jones inquired about Payne considering other sites including Royal and Annie Smith Park. 44 Payne stated that they would really like to see the cabin at Bicentennial Park near the KSB 45 waterscape, close to North White Chapel. Berman inquired about it fitting with the changes 46 occurring at Bicentennial Park (waterscape and trail). Lenoir stated that the cedars and Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 2 of 11 \\slksv0001 \shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\030998.doc "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 volleyball court will be taken away and technically, the pine tree area is City land, not 2 parkland as the land has never been dedicated to the park. Lenoir stated that any motion in 3 agreement to this move must go to City Council. Anderson inquired about the location and 4 Lenoir stated that it would be east of the KSB waterscape and north of the pine trees. 5 6 Motion was made to recommend to City Council that the log cabin be placed at Bicentennial 7 Park in the desired location and that this cabin be the only historical building at Bicentennial 8 Park. Hamilton stated that she supports this, but the motion should state that this building be 9 placed at the desired location and that the Board does not recommend developing this site as 10 a historical village. Jones stated that she would like to amend her motion. 11 12 Motion was made to recommend to City Council that the log cabin be placed at the 13 desired location in Bicentennial Park, north of the pine trees and with the 14 recommendation that this site not be developed as a site for a historical park. 15 16 Motion: Jones 17 Second: Berman 18 Ayes: Rawls, Jones, Miltenberger, Hamilton, Anderson, Berman 19 Nays: None 20 Approved: 7-0 21 22 Discussion: 23 Jones stated that Royal and Annie Smith Park would be a wonderful location for a historical 24 site. Payne stated that she feels that the neighbors would object. Payne stated that she would 25 like the Board to consider a place for a historical park and asked the Board to let her know of 26 any more historical homes in the area that she may be unaware of. Anderson stated that 27 there is at least one more vacant house closer to the south end of Bob Jones Park. Payne 28 stated that she does need a place to store items from some of the Garmen house that she has 29 in her garage (rocking chairs, etc.). 30 31 Agenda Item No. 6, Master Plan for Royal and Annie Smith Park - Fierce inquired if this 32 must be a "consider" item and Lenoir stated that this may be a discussion item and if they 33 would like to vote on directions for the staff to proceed with, they may. Lenoir stated that 34 this park will go to the public for a hearing before plans are finalized. 35 36 Jones stated that there is SPDC funding, but it has been designated for other items and the 37 park will be "in line" for such funding. Lenoir stated that SPDC is looking at August for 38 $4.5 bond sale. Berman inquired about the park being completed with these funds. Lenoir 39 stated that she sees all the neighborhood parks being developed in phases. 40 41 Henry stated that the Keller Independent School District (KISD) would like to begin their 42 library and that KISD asked if we may begin some items within the park. Henry stated that 43 the library will be in the southeast corner of the school and they would like to move the 44 playground on the City park land. Jones inquired about recommending a Phase I now. 45 Lenoir stated that the Board may give direction in regard to the Phase I at this time. Fierce Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 3 of 11 \\slksv0001 \shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\030998. doc "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 stated that if there is an opportunity to work with KISD, the Board should move forward and 2 that the Board should provide Henry with direction. 3 4 Henry stated that KISD will begin a library and a 30-40 space parking lot. KISD funds do 5 not include relocating the basketball court. Jones inquired about the hockey court discussed 6 and Henry stated that there is no room for such a facility in the southwest corner. Henry 7 stated that the basketball court be termed a "multi-use court" to enable basketball and hockey 8 to use the court. Jones stated that there are not enough lighted basketball courts and that the 9 sport should have its own court. Henry stated that due to the hour of use, potential conflicts 10 may NOT arise. Jones stated that she would like to see a separate hockey court. Henry 11 inquired about a "no-wall" court and Jones agreed. Lenoir inquired about room for a second 12 "multi-use court" close to the school for the school play yard. Hamilton inquired about 13 doubling the size of the basketball court. Henry stated that he will work with moving the 14 court to allow more space for basketball and hockey play. 15 16 Anderson inquired about the drainage and Henry stated that once the southwest corner is 17 graded, the drainage will improve. Henry stated that some water from the courts and parking 18 lot may generate water flow, so he will leave space for a detention area. Henry stated that he 19 committed to the southwest corner residents, that he will NOT increase the drainage problem 20 in their area. 21 22 Anderson inquired about the closest house and Henry stated that the closest house may be 23 about 50-60 feet from the southern property line and it is at a higher elevation than the park 24 facilities. Lenoir stated that the owners bedroom window faces the park and that owner does 25 NOT want lights and would like a buffer landscaped area between the house and the park. 26 27 Fierce stated that the only lighting would be tennis and basketball. Jones stated that, in her 28 opinion, SPDC would not consider this a "neighborhood park" and she is not willing to 29 consider it as such since, among other things, restrooms are NOT included in a 30 "neighborhood park." Lenoir stated that if restrooms and lighted fields are being installed, 31 this is NOT a "neighborhood park". Jones stated that NO "tall" baseball lighting be used 32 based upon what R.E. Smith stated. Hugman stated that the Board may make their 33 recommendation and that the land contract agreement will be reviewed (or amended) based 34 on those recommendations. 35 36 Fierce stated that the public be informed and have the ability to review the master plan. 37 38 Hamilton stated that JUC would like to continue to review the plan, even though it is KISD. 39 Hugman stated that the Superintendent and Principal have been invited to attend the JUC 40 meeting which will include this park as a discussion item. Hamilton stated that the JUC 41 meeting will tentatively be this Thursday night. Lenoir stated that she would like the 42 Physical Education teacher to be invited. to review and comment on the revised plan. Henry 43 stated that he will approach the SPIN leaders and the school. Lenoir inquired about the 44 school playground existing on the city park property, Henry stated that, at the schools 45 request, he has placed the playground on city park property. 46 Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 4 of 11 \\slksv0001 \shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\03 0998. doc "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 Hamilton left the meeting at 7:47p.m. 2 3 Anderson stated that he does like this plan, but he does have a problem with the lights. He 4 stated that he would like to visit the park at night. He stated that there was a petition 5 circulated during the last Parks and Recreation Board meeting against the lights, so he would 6 like to look at the site. Henry stated that a night with moisture would be a prime viewing 7 night as he can see how the light is filtered throughout the area. Anderson stated that there 8 are a lot of nice unlighted sport facilities in the summer, there is more daylight to use the 9 facilities. 10 11 Fierce stated that at a SPIN meeting, there was a complaint about the school lighting as the 12 lighting is similar to flood lighting. Miltenberger stated that to install such sport facilities, 13 there should be lighting. Rawls stated that the neighborhood homes have the flood lights 14 shining up on their homes, so he doesn't understand why those people complain about sport 15 facility lights. Jones stated that in the summer, lights will only be on for about one hour. 16 17 Fierce stated that this is not a final discussion of the park and the lighting does NOT have to 18 be decided at this meeting. The Board decided that they will leave the lights for now and 19 continue to review the park. Henry asked if he should continue his conversations with the 20 school of moving forward. Anderson stated that he doesn't see any of the park items being 21 disputed, he sees that the Board is only discussing the lights, restrooms and the multi-use 22 court location. 23 24 Motion was made to approve moving forward revision of the Master Plan for Royal and 25 Annie Smith Park with the addition of one more multi-use court to the west of the 26 existing court; addition of restrooms; the fact that this park be considered a 27 "community park" with the exception of field lights and that a public hearing be held 28 upon final approval of the master plan. 29 30 Motion: Jones 31 Second: Miltenberger 32 Ayes: Rawls, Jones, Miltenberger, Fierce 33 Nays: Anderson, Berman 34 Approved: 4-2 35 36 Agenda Item No. 9, Endorsing City of Southlake Charter Amendment Proposition No. 4 - 37 Hugman stated this proposition was brought to the Board because Park Master Plans are 38 civic improvements. He stated that the Park Board is an advisory Board; thus, their 39 approvals should not have to go to other city boards. Hugman stated that this proposition be 40 taken to the Park and P&Z Board so their endorsements may be used in the City's literature. 41 42 Motion was made to endorse the City of Southlake Charter Amendment Proposition 43 No. 4. 44 45 Motion: Miltenberger 46 Second: Jones Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 5 of 11 \\slksv0001\shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\030998.doc "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 Ayes: Rawls, Jones, Miltenberger, Fierce, Anderson, Berman 2 Nays: None 3 Approved: 6-0 4 5 Jones confirmed that "specific" park items will only go to the Park. Hugman stated that the 6 Trail System Master Plan and Parks, Recreation and Opens Space Master Plan are part of 7 the City master plan and would still go to P&Z. 8 9 Hugman thanked Jones and Fierce for their work on the Charter Committee. 10 11 Agenda Item No. 10, 1998-99 Park Board Goals and Objectives - Lenoir stated that these 12 items will be the Board's plan for the year. (Attachments: 1998-99 Park Board Goals and 13 Objectives). 14 15 Fierce inquired about the last item under trail projects, he inquired about the funding for the 16 existing signage and Lenoir stated that there was a grant request and the grant was not 17 approved. Berman inquired about cities applying to foundations and Lenoir stated that the 18 City may depending on the specifics of the guidelines. 19 20 Miltenberger inquired about computer lighting costs and necessities. Henry stated that there 21 are systems that will control all electrical systems such as irrigation, lighting, gates, etc. 22 Henry stated that such systems will detect inactive irrigation areas as well. Henry stated that 23 with such a system, he would be able to control the lights, sprinklers, gates, etc. from his 24 computer at home, the office or from a telephone. 25 26 Hamilton entered the meeting at 8:11 p.m. 27 28 Motion was made to approve the Southlake Parks and Recreation Board 1998-99 Goals 29 and Objectives as they are written and that they be the plan for the Board to follow. 30 31 Motion: Berman 32 Second: Miltenberger 33 Ayes: Rawls, Jones, Miltenberger, Fierce, Anderson, Berman 34 Nays: None 35 Abstain: Hamilton 36 Approved: 6-0-1 37 38 Board took a five minute break at 8:15 p.m. The meeting was called back to order at 8:20 39 p.m. 40 41 Discuss: 42 43 Agenda Item No. 11, Master Plan for Lonesome Dove Park - Lenoir stated that the master 44 plan process is the "process" to follow on parks and that the neighborhood has commented 45 about some items not completed at the site. Henry stated that the neighborhood inquired Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 6 of 11 \\slksv0001 \shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\030998.doc "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 about fencing and sidewalks. Lenoir stated that the Public Works Department stated that the 2 sidewalk along the street and the four-rail fence around the park have not been installed. 3 4 Jones inquired about how to encourage the developers to complete what they promise to 5 complete. Lenoir stated that the developer does not receive final release until all items are 6 complete. Jones stated that the other developments should be reviewed as well. Berman 7 inquired about a place existing that the developer placing money in escrow until the job is 8 complete. Lenoir stated that she will check with Public Works. 9 10 Fierce inquired about the developer reaching substantial completion of Phase I. Hamilton 11 stated that it is complete. According to the enclosed map, Lenoir stated that the sidewalk 12 along the street and the fence is not complete. Lenoir inquired about the four-rail fence and 13 Jones stated that the fence is probably near Emerald Estates. Jones inquired about credit 14 received and Lenoir confirmed. Miltenberger requested that staff write a letter stating what 15 remains to be completed. Lenoir stated that this is possible. 16 17 Lenoir stated that this was brought to the Board to let them know where things stand and 18 receive recommendation for open play areas (backstops, soccer fields). Rawls stated that 19 this is a great practice facility for soccer as there is hardly ever any standing water to the 20 west of the volleyball court. Rawls stated that there is a lot of open space for backstops near 21 the berm and parking area. 22 23 Miltenberger inquired about what is involved in doing a master plan and Lenoir stated that a 24 map would be completed with desired amenities and the neighborhood would be invited to 25 view and comment. Miltenberger stated that the Board should begin to move on this item. 26 Jones inquired about Meadowmere Park and Lenoir stated it is in the master plan and the 27 City has discussed it, but Grapevine City Council has not shown interest in moving forward. 28 Fierce inquired about when the Grapevine Park Board meets and Lenoir stated that she will 29 check. Rawls stated that he feels Lonesome Dove residents will approve backstops to allow 30 a place for the kids to play. 31 32 Jones stated that had Rawls not requested this item to be placed on the agenda, the Board 33 would never have discovered whether or not Lonesome Dove had completed their promised 34 park requirements. Jones asked how many other developments have been released without 35 the Board knowing if they had completed similar requirements. 36 37 Henry stated that he will add backstops, a soccer practice area and a sidewalk/loop in 38 the Master Plan for Lonesome Dove Park. 39 40 Agenda Item No. 12, Master Plan elements of Bob Jones Park - Henry showed the existing 41 elements of soccer and parking. He detailed the playground area which would include a 42 misting/gun scenario water playground area which will be a Phase II of the playground. . 43 Henry stated that this type of water playground may deter children from the pond. Berman 44 stated in a family, one child may be playing soccer and the other will be wanting to play at 45 the water playground area and a parent cannot watch both children. Miltenberger stated that 46 it would be slick and possibly dangerous. Lenoir stated that the surface would not be slick Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 7 of 11 \\s1ksv0001 \shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\030998.doc "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 due to the materials selected. Jones stated that she agreed that the area is not appropriate for 2 a water playground. Lenoir stated that Bicentennial Park may be a better park for such a 3 playground. 4 5 Henry stated that this playground should be completely fenced. Fierce inquired about the 6 material type used for the playground and Lenoir stated metal. Lenoir stated that the 7 playground would also be entirely fenced. Fierce stated that this playground MUST be 8 completely fenced. The Board inquired about the fencing at Adventure Alley and Lenoir 9 stated that Adventure Alley will eventually be completely fenced. 10 11 Regarding the pavilion, Henry introduced the layout of the floor and roof. Berman inquired 12 about material of the decks and Lenoir stated that she assumes that it will be a wood 13 structure. Henry stated that the pavilion would be constructed to give the feel of being on the 14 water. Fierce inquired about the depth of water and Henry stated 3-4 feet. Fierce inquired 15 about a barrier, Henry stated there will be a railing. Henry stated that the restrooms will be 16 moved from near the pavilion area to the north of the pavilion area, east of the soccer fields. 17 Henry stated that trees would not be within the soccer field area to allow flexibility for 18 tournament play. Lenoir stated that trees be included along the parking lot and Henry stated 19 to possibly include trees along pipe-rail fence. Anderson inquired about the pump house, 20 Henry stated that the well possibly works and that the Trinity well would be the one to 21 provide the GPM's to fill the pond. 22 23 Rawls inquired about Southlake Baseball Association coming to review the plans even 24 though the baseball fields are NOT game fields. Lenoir stated that two fields exist as larger 25 fields as requested by the association. Henry proposed moving the ballfields south of the 26 soccer fields. This would allow the park road to be re-routed which would allow the road to 27 be constructed around the hill instead of cutting through the hill. Lenoir stated that it was on 28 the master plan to NOT cut into the hill. Henry stated that with the existing trees and 29 drainage, the Board should not move the fields to the right into the Corps property. Lenoir 30 stated that the ballfields would be small and Rawls stated that the young children are the 31 one's that want to play. 32 33 Lenoir asked if the Board likes the pavilion and the Board stated that they agree with the 34 pavilion. Lenoir stated that there is 75-100 feet between the soccer and baseball fields if the 35 baseball fields are placed to the south of the soccer field. 36 37 Lenoir stated that this plan will be going to SPDC. Lenoir stated that these items are the 38 Phase I of the grant and the items stated "future" are Phase II of the grant. 39 40 Anderson inquired about opening the changed park plan to the public, Lenoir stated that the 41 fields are in the general approved area which was approved as the athletic field area and did 42 not believe there was a significant change to the master plan which would need public 43 comment. Anderson stated that he likes the ballfields near the road versus the pond as the 44 pond will remain serene and the fields will be more accessible to the community. 45 Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 8 of 11 \\slksv0001 \shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\03 0998. doc "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 Agenda Item No. 13, Participation with Audubon Society in planning and development of 2 Bob Jones Park - Henry stated that more he looks into the "signature program" considering 3 restrictions and costs, he realized that it would impose many more restrictions on staff in 4 regard to constructing the park. Henry stated that he is leaning more towards the 5 "Cooperative Sanctuary System" which would be about $100 annually. Henry stated that the 6 Audubon Society would be there for us on an "as needed" basis. 7 8 Fierce stated that there is value in being involved and associated with such a group, but 9 having them dictate how the park is designed is not appealing. Henry stated that this would 10 assist in creating an awareness to the nature center. Berman inquired about a nature center 11 volunteers working on this item and Henry stated that he would like that. Lenoir inquired 12 about the Nature Center Committee liaisons (Anderson, White) talking with the Nature 13 Center Committee, Anderson agreed. 14 15 Agenda Item No. 14, Austin and Georgetown Parks and Recreation Facilities - Lenoir stated 16 that the Park Board Tour booklet has been routed to board members and if anyone wanted to 17 review the videos of the facilities, please contact her. 18 19 Youth Parks and Recreation Board - Johnson - Hamilton inquired about the Youth Park 20 Board member not attending and stated that something should be done to removed this 21 person. Lenoir will ask Schaeffer to follow-up with the Youth Park Board. 22 23 Budget - Fierce - Fierce stated that there is no money for mid year staff hires. Jones 24 inquired about where MESA payments come from, Fierce and Lenoir stated SPDC. 25 26 Recreation/Special Events - Johnson, Jones - No report. 27 28 Community Relations - Berman, Anderson - No report. 29 30 Youth Sports Associations - Miltenberger, Rawls - No report. 31 32 Community Groups - Hamilton, White - No report. 33 34 SPIN - Fierce, White - Fierce stated that SPIN has realigned their meeting schedule to the 35 second Thursday of the month. 36 37 SPDC - Jones - Fierce stated that minutes from the previous meeting are enclosed in the 38 packet. Berman thanked that staff for enclosing the minutes. 39 40 JUC - Hamilton - No report as JUC was previously mentioned (See Agenda Item No. 11). 41 Hamilton stated that the Thursday, March 12 meeting is tentative. 42 43 City Council Monthly Report - Anderson to report. Hamilton inquired about Fricks 44 appointment to the Youth Park Board and stated that they want something done. 45 46 Nature Center Committee - White, Anderson - No report. Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 9 of 11 \\s1ksv0001 \shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\030998. doc "OFFICIAL MINUTES" APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 2 Miscellaneous: 3 4 Hamilton apologized for missing the majority of consider items and stated that in regard to 5 the charter review, she stated that "City Parks" is mentioned and if it is "parks owned by the 6 city," it should read as such as this would not include "community" and "neighborhood" 7 parks. Hugman stated that this was drafted by the City Attorney and he would discuss 8 Hamilton's concern with the City Attorney. 9 10 Anderson inquired about the ballfield signs mentioned in Jim Munch's fund-raiser proposal. 11 Hugman stated that staff checked with the City Attorney. Hugman stated that Munch would 12 have to go to the City Council to obtain a variance which, as he stated, according to Council 13 member Muller, has a rather small chance of being approved. Lenoir stated that one of the 14 sign salesman approached her and stated that he feels that the Park Board declined the fund 15 raising idea. 16 17 Being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:41 p.m. 18 19 20 21 ice -Choi 7~e 2 24 25 Cara White, Secretary Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, March 9, 1998 Page 10 of 11 \\slksv0001 \shared\parkrec\boards\pkboard\minutes\ 1998\030998. doc