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2000-04-10 * * OFFICIAL MINUTES * * APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 CITY OF SOUTHLAKE 2 PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING 3 4 April 10, 2000 5 6 MINUTES 7 8 Board Members Present Sherry Berman, Chair; Richard Anderson, Vice-Chair; Cara 9 White, Secretary; Mary Georgia; Chris Miltenberger; Bill Kemp; Lisa Stokdyk, James 10 Glover 11 12 Board Members Absent: None 13 14 15 Staff Members Present: Kevin Hugman, Director of Community Services; John Eaglen, 16 Administrative Assistant; Meredith Parrish, Administrative Secretary, Mirenda McQuagge, 17 Administrative Intern; Steve Moore, Recreation Director 18 19 20 Regular Session: 21 22 Agenda Item No. 1, Call to order. The meeting was called to order by Chair Sherry 23 Berman at 7:05PM 24 25 Reports: 26 27 Agenda Item No. 2.A. Administrative Comments. 28 Mr. Hugman had no administrative comments. 29 30 Mr. Miltenberger asked if there was a planned maintenance of the baseball field's restroom 31 areas. Ms. Stokdyk asked if they were the bathrooms by Adventure Alley or by the 32 Community Center. Mr. Miltenberger replied that he was specifically talking about the 33 bathroom facilities by Adventure Alley, but that the facilities by the Community Center may 34 be affected as well. Mr. Hugman replied that this issue would be looked into, but the 35 maintenance person scheduled for Saturday was already working overtime. Mr. Hugman 36 suggested that the Saturday maintenance person might be able to check the facilities before 37 they leave on Saturday. Mr. Miltenberger asked what time the maintenance person left on 38 Saturdays. Mr. Hugman replied that he was not sure at this point. 39 40 Mr. Glover commented that the floor of the restroom facilities by the hockey rink is in poor 41 condition. Mr. Hugman replied that staff is already aware of the situation and that it has 42 been raised with the contractor. 43 Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page I of 10 N.•IParks & Recreation lBOARDSIPKBOARDIMINUTES120001041000.doc * * OFFICIAL MINUTES * * APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 Mr. Miltenberger asked about mud washing down into the hockey rink after it rains. Mr. 2 Hugman said that the problem had existed initially, but more sod was put down to alleviate 3 the problem. The problem was coming from the sloped area by the sidewalk. There have 4 been no further problems he stated, and Mr. Glover confirmed this. 5 6 7 Ms. White asked when the process would begin to bid for the parking lot for Bob Jones 8 trailhead parking area. Ms. White commented that she had asked several times about this 9 and and was told that utility lines needed to be relocated, but could beging advertising for 10 the project. Mr. Hugman replied that once the design was ready, and stated that there were 11 a number of projects that staff was trying to work on, including other CIP projects. He said 12 he would confirm with Ben Henry the hold up and move this along. 13 14 Mr. Anderson commented that the mowing at Bob Jones park looked nice and staff is taking 15 care of it and doing a good job. Mr. Hugman commented that City is maintaining the fields 16 and the contractor mows the outlying areas. 17 18 Ms. Berman commented that for clarification from last month's minutes,the naming of the 19 parks came about by the Youth Park Board. Ms. Berman commented that the Youth Park 20 Board has historically been interested in naming the parks and have enjoyed being able to 21 do that. Ms. Stokdyk asked if the general public could help with naming the parks. Ms. 22 Berman commented that the smaller parks were the ones being named by the Youth Park 23 Board. 24 25 Ms. Berman commented that since Jerry Kegley from SBA was present she would proceed 26 to Agenda Item 5B and then come back to other agenda items later in the meeting. 27 28 Agenda Item 513: Request from Southlake Baseball Association for $12,200 in matching 29 grant funding. 30 31 Ms. Berman asked if Mr. Kegley had any comments. Mr. Kegley commented that the new 32 batting cages were nice and currently being utilized. Mr. Kegley stated that he appreciated 33 the board's support of the batting cages. Mr. Kegley stated that the main purpose this 34 evening was to request matching grant funding for lighting to increase utilization of the 35 batting cages. Ms. Berman asked how turning the lights on and off work. Mr. Hugman 36 stated that it would be looked at by staff and would probably be similar to lights currently in 37 place, in that there would be a manual switch, but there would also be an automatic timer 38 that would override the manual switch at a designated time. Mr. Glover asked if this would 39 be an issue with the light ordinance. Mr. Hugman replied that it probably would, but could 40 be considered by the Planning and Zoning Commission along with other plans currently 41 being reviewed in regards to lighting. 42 43 Mr. Miltenberger made a motion to approve the $12,200 in matching funds. Ms. Stokdyk 44 asked if this would go before City Council to ask for a variance. Mr. Hugman replied that Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page 2 of 10 N: (Parks & Recreation WOARDSIPKBOARDIMINUTES120001041000.doc * * OFFICIAL MINUTES APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 after the lighting design is done, before it is sent to bid, it would go before the council for a 2 variance if the design does not meet requirements. Mr. Glover asked if it was suspected that 3 the design might not meet requirements. Mr. Hugman replied that it probably would not, 4 because of the types of lights that would be necessary. Mr. Hugman also stated that if 5 necessary staff would take it to the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Mr. Hugman 6 stated that the design needed to be in place first though. Ms. Berman asked what kind of 7 time frame was being looked at. Mr. Hugman stated he was not sure how long it would take 8 to get the design, since no one had been picked to do the design. Mr. Hugman further 9 replied that once the matching grant funds are approved, proposals would be gathered from 10 lighting design engineers. Ms. Berman commented that since daylight savings time was 11 currently in effect the cages should be fine for now. She said that if the project could be 12 done before daylight savings time changes back in the fall would be optimal. Mr. Kegley 13 commented that it would be best to get the lights installed before daylight savings time ends 14 so that the batting cages will continue to be taken full advantage of. 15 16 Motion: Miltenberger 17 Second: White 18 For: Anderson, Berman, Glover, White, Georgia, Kemp, Stokdyk, Miltenberger 19 Against: None 20 Approved: 8-0 21 22 23 Consent: 24 25 Agenda Item No.3.A. Approval of the minutes for the March 13, 2000 meeting and Agenda 26 Item No. 3B Approval for the minutes for the March 9, 2000 joint Parks and Recreation Board 27 Joint Utilization Committee meeting. 28 29 Ms. White stated that she had some minor corrections to the minutes. Ms. Stokdyk asked if 30 these were grammar and spelling errors or errors that would change the content. Ms. White 31 confirmed that they were just spelling and grammar errors. 32 33 Motion: Glover 34 Second: Anderson 35 For: Anderson, White, Georgia, Kemp, Stokdyk, Miltenberger, Berman, Glover 36 Against: 0 37 Approved 8-0 38 39 Regular: 40 41 Agenda Item No. 4, Public Forum. 42 Chair Sherry Berman asked if there were any requests to speak during the Public Forum. 43 No public was present and there were no requests. Public Forum was closed at 7:12 PM. 44 45 Consider: Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page 3 of 10 N: (Parks & Recreation 1BOARDSIPKBOARDIMINUTEY20001041000.doc * * OFFICIAL MINUTES * * APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 2 Agenda Item No. S.A., Request from Southlake Girls Softball Association for $600 in 3 matching grant funding. 4 5 Mr. Hugman said that this item is just like Agenda Item 5B, except for the fact that SGSA 6 does not have the funds currently to construct the lighting; but that SGSA would like to 7 participate in the engineering and design. Mr. Hugman stated that SGSA's share of the 8 engineering and design phase of the project is estimated to be $600. Mr. Hugman said that 9 engineering and design costs for the project totals $1200 for girl's softball, and $2400 for 10 baseball and that SGSA's share would be $600 under the matching grant. Mr. Hugman said 11 that SGSA is therefore asking for $600 in matching grant funding. 12 13 Ms. Berman asked when the SGSA planned to do this. Mr. Hugman said that the design 14 would be done at the same time and that if girl's softball did not have the funds to actually 15 constuct the lighting at the time the bid went out, just the baseball portion would be. Mr. 16 Miltenberger asked how expensive this project would be. Mr. Hugman said cost is estimated 17 to be $36,000 to light both the baseball and the softball batting cages. Mr. Hugman said that 18 girls' softball would be a third of that since there are two (2) cages. Mr. Miltenberger asked if 19 the SGSA was being asked to come up with $6000. Mr. Hugman said that would be the 20 estimate. Mr. Hugman said that actual cost would not be known until the actual design is 21 made. Mr. Miltenberger said that if the SBA was able to come up with the money and the 22 SGSA was not, that the Parks Board should evaluate funding the lighting of the softball 23 cages. Mr. Miltenberger said this would look best from a perception stand point. 24 25 Mr. Glover said that he agreed with Mr. Miltenberger from a perception standpoint, but 26 questioned if it was fair to ask SBA to raise the money and then fund SGSA because they 27 were unable to come up with the money. Mr. Miltenberger commented that it is easier for 28 SBA to raise the money than SGSA. Ms. Stokdyk asked if the boy's money came from 29 concessions. Mr. Miltenberger stated that they are able to raise more money because they are 30 a bigger association in general and can charge more dues. Ms. Georgia said that she agreed 31 with Mr. Miltenberger in that the Parks Board should help the various groups with funding but 32 also encourage them to raise their own funds. Ms. Georgia said that if SBA were able to raise 33 the money and SGSA were not that the board should help the girls in order to keep it fair. Ms. 34 Stokdyk said that this sounded like a good plan, but that the budget did not allow for extra 35 funding of this sort. 36 37 Ms. Berman said that the board should wait to see what happens. Mr. Glover questioned if it 38 would be fair to pay for the girls if this program is indeed to be matching funds. Mr. Glover 39 said that he felt that this would not be setting a good example. Ms. Georgia asked what history 40 the board had in turning down matching fund items. Mr. Miltenberger said that it would be 41 best to work towards matching funds at this point and discuss it further when and if the need 42 arises. Mr. Glover said that he was not opposed to offering a loan to the SGSA so that the 43 project can be completed at the same time as the SBA. Ms. White said that the board would 44 have to be careful with this issue because then the board would start getting into issues of 45 having to pick and choose which organization to help. Mr. Glover said that the board should 46 come up with ideas to help the girls raise the money. Ms. Berman said that the board should Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page 4 of 10 N.•IParks & Recreation lBOARDSIPKBOARDIMINUTESI20001041000.doc * * OFFICIAL MINUTES * * APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 wait to discuss this item further, once the need arises. Ms. Berman said that she felt the batting 2 cages would be used to capacity. Mr. Glover agreed with Ms. Berman. 3 Mr. Glover made a motion to approve the SGSA's request for $600 in matching grant 4 funding. 5 6 Motion: Glover 7 Second: Georgia 8 Favor: Berman, Anderson, White, Kemp, Georgia, Glover, Stokdyk, Miltenberger 9 Against: None 10 Approved: 8-0 11 12 Agenda Item 5C: Consider the removal of detention pond at Noble Oaks Park. 13 14 Mr. Hugman said this item, as noted in the memo, was brought before the board last month as 15 a discussion item and that last month the Park Board recommended removing the pond. Mr. 16 Hugman said that at the joint meeting between the JUC and Park Board this item was brought 17 up for discussion of leaving the pond as a natural learning environment for the school district 18 site to be built adjacent to the park. Mr. Hugman said that the school district is still concerned 19 with the liability issue, and they have told the City Manager that if the pond stays, they will 20 fill in their portion of the pond and fence across it. Mr. Hugman stated that the city's concern 21 is with the small size of the pond and with the fact that the pond does dry up in the summer 22 time. Mr. Hugman mentioned that the City also shares the concern with the school district 23 over the liability. 24 25 Mr. Hugman said that the staff received a letter from the City Engineer, Charlie Thomas 26 stating that the major runoff comes from Carroll, and when Carroll is finished out and is 27 complete with curb and gutters, the pond will no longer get the runoff. The only runoff will 28 come from the park itself. Mr. Hugman said that there is a very good possibility that even if 29 the pond is kept, it will be dry most of the year once Carroll is improved. 30 31 Mr. Hugman said that since there was discussion at JUC and since the school board still has 32 issues, the City wanted to bring it before the board again. Mr. Anderson said that when the 33 idea was originally presented, at the JUC, the school board was going to take it back to their 34 designers to consider. Mr. Anderson said that apparently once the designers looked at it, the 35 idea to make it an outdoor learning center was disregarded. Mr. Glover asked how the 36 construction was going to change the drainage more than originally anticipated. Mr. Hugman 37 said that there had been concern that the school site development would impact the drainage. 38 Mr. Glover asked why it would cost so much money to fill in the pond if it were to dry up. 39 Mr. Hugman said that the cost estimates were based on filling in the pond and taken care of 40 the drainage now, while the pond is still full. Mr. Hugman said that once the improvements 41 are done to Carroll that will change the drainage and will take care of a lot of the cost. Mr. 42 Hugman said that if the the decision is made to fill the pond in, the cost will be minimal also 43 because the school district will already have contractors working at the site who will be able 44 to fill the pond in. Mr. Hugman said this is why last month it was recommended the school 45 district look at paying for the cost of filling the pond in within their contract. 46 Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page 5 of 10 N.•IParks & Recreation OOARDSIPKBOARDWINUTEY20001041000.doc * * OFFICIAL MINUTES * * APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 Mr. Glover recommended allowing the pond to dry up and then fill in the hole with dirt. Ms. 2 Stokdyk said that she did not feel that it was necessary to fill it in. Ms. Stokdyk said that it 3 could be used as a learning tool by the school district. Ms. Georgia said that from reading the 4 minutes, the school board did not share the same view. Mr. Glover said that the school district 5 would still use it for educational purposes, but that it would still have to be fenced off for 6 liability purposes. 7 8 Mr. Hugman said that if the board does nothing, that the school district will have to assume 9 that the pond will stay there and will have to plan for fencing around that pond in their site 10 plans for the school. Ms. Berman asked Mr. Hugman if it would be possible to wait and watch 11 what happens to the pond this summer since the new school will not be opening in the fall. 12 Mr. Hugman said the only question that he had was how waiting would affect the school 13 district on their design plans. He said that the school district is currently running their plans 14 through the engineering department. 15 16 Mr. Glover said that this was the school board's issue and the Park Board was not willing to 17 spend money to fill the pond in at this time. Ms. Berman said she would like the school board 18 to be told that the Park Board is unwilling to spend money on the pond at this time, but if the 19 school board wants to pay the money to fill the hole in, that would be acceptable. Mr. 20 Anderson said that if the school board fills in a portion of the pond, it would make it smaller. 21 Ms. Stokdyk asked when CISD made the decision to fill in their portion. Mr. Hugman said 22 that he was not sure when, but that they had indicated this to the City Manager's office. Mr. 23 Hugman said that it would be discussed again at the next JUC meeting. 24 25 Mr. Glover made a motion that nothing is to be done with the pond, leave it the way it is and 26 reconsider in the future when there is a better idea of what the new topography will be. 27 28 Motion: Glover 29 Second: Kemp 30 For: Berman, Anderson, White, Stokdyk, Georgia, Miltenberger, Glover 31 Against: None 32 Approved: 8-0 33 34 35 Discussion: 36 37 Agenda Item No. 6.A., Report on TAAF Basketball Tournament held March 10-12, 2000. 38 39 Mr. Hugman said that Steve Moore, Recreation Supervisor was present to give a brief report 40 on the tournament. Mr. Hugman said that this was a state tournament and teams from all over 41 the state competed in the tournament. 42 43 Mr. Moore said that 93 teams attended and competed. Mr. Moore said the tournament was for 44 the Texas Amateur Athletic Federation. Mr. Moore said that is the second time hosting this 45 tournament and that the City also hosts regional tournaments as well. He said 93 teams were 46 brought in from all over the state and 141 games were played at Carroll Junior High, Durham Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page 6 of 10 N: (Parks & Recreation TOARDSIPKBOARDIMINUTEY20001041000.doc * * OFFICIAL MINUTES APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 and Rockenbaugh and Colleyville Middle School. Mr. Moore said that Colleyville had to be 2 used because more teams were brought in than originally anticipated. 3 4 Mr. Moore said that the way the allocations are done is that there are 17 regions in Texas and 5 each region gets a certain amount of allocations. Mr. Moore said that since there were more 6 teams allocated this year, Colleyville was willing to help. 7 8 Mr. Kemp asked what was the age range of the players. Mr. Moore replied that the ages 9 ranged from 8-12 years. Ms. Berman asked why the high school was not utilized. Mr. Moore 10 replied that the high school was not available at the time. Mr. Miltenberger said that 11 Rockenbaugh was a small gym. Mr. Moore agreed with Mr. Miltenberger and said that was 12 one of the few complaints about the tournament. He said that overall the tournament went 13 well and that the City received many compliments. Mr. Anderson asked for clarification on 14 what the three invitations were. Mr. Moore said that since Southlake was the host city, three 15 invitations were allowed. Mr. Moore said that only one team accepted thought because the 16 tournament was during spring break. Mr. Moore said that shown in the expense report, the 17 City came out $1349.13 on the plus side. 18 19 Mr. Glover asked what bid to TAAF was. Mr. Moore said that when the state conference 20 occurs in September, bidding for hosting tournaments is part of the process. Mr. Moore said 21 that by bidding for tournaments it brings revenue to the area. Mr. Kemp asked about overtime 22 and city staff expenses. Mr. Hugman replied that this is built into the expenses. Mr. 23 Miltenberger asked if there were any crowd control problems. Mr. Moore said that there were 24 no problems. Ms. Berman asked if the City was planning on hosting this again next year. Mr. 25 Moore said no, the tournament will be in Houston. Mr. Moore said that the City bid on this 26 tournament in 1998. Mr. Glover said that the City would host the hockey tournament. Ms. 27 Berman expressed her appreciation to Mr. Moore and staff for a good job. Mr. Hugman said 28 that Mr. Moore and staff did a very good job and worked hard in planning and organizing the 29 event. 30 31 Agenda Item 6B: Tour of Colleyville Community Center. 32 33 Mr. Hugman said that the board had mentioned at the retreat that they would like to see some 34 other facilities and one of the facilities specifically mentioned was the Colleyville Community 35 Center. Mr. Hugman said that the Colleyville Community Center is not a recreation center, it 36 is more of a convention center for meetings and special events. Mr. Hugman said that since 37 the board had specifically mentioned it, the staff wanted to see if this was still something that 38 the board wanted to visit. 39 40 Ms. Berman asked if any portion of Town Center would be available to purchase to build a 41 community center. Mr. Hugman said that the developer has a concept plan for the entire 42 sight, but that the City some talked to him about potentially purchasing some land for the 43 future library, and that the possibility of a future community center might also be considered. 44 Ms. Berman said that she would like to see something like the Colleyville Community Center 45 at Town Square. Ms. Berman said this would be viable to Town Square business as well. 46 Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page 7 of 10 N: (Parks & Recreation WARDYPKBOARDIMINUTES12000W41000.doc * * OFFICIAL MINUTES * * APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 Mr. Glover commented that the Colleyville Community Center is a beautiful facility. Ms. 2 Georgia said that she would like to tour the Colleyville Community Center, although that she 3 is not as interested in the community center aspect as the recreation aspect of a community 4 center. Mr. Kemp asked if a recreation center was closer to what was being considered for 5 Southlake. Ms. Berman said that it was two different concepts, one a recreation center and one 6 is a convention center. Grapevine has a convention center and a recreation center. Mr. Kemp 7 said that the focus of the Parks Board is to look at a recreation center. Mr. Glover said that a 8 study of what the community wants would be a good idea. Mr. Miltenberger said that if 9 someone wanted to pick a date to go, the board would go. Mr. Hugman asked about 10 preferences for day of the week. Mr. Hugman said that the City would put together a couple of 11 options for dates and times and then get back with the board to pick a specific time. 12 13 14 Agenda Item No. 6. C. Liaison Reports: 15 16 Youth Parks and Recreation Board - Berman - No Report 17 18 Recreation/Special Events - Stokdyk - Ms. Stokdyk said the arts festival will be April 29, 19 2000. Ms. Stokdyk said that most of Arbor Day got rained out. Ms. White said that Drug 20 and Alcohol Awareness has a meeting at City Hall on April 11, 2000. Ms. White said that 21 City of Southlake Volunteer Luncheon is on April 14, 2000. 22 23 Teen Center - Berman, White -Ms. Berman said that they are still waiting for revisions 24 from City Council on the survey. 25 26 Youth Sports Association - Miltenberger -No Report 27 28 Community Groups/Portal Committee - Stokdyk/White - Ms. White said that there is no 29 money currently for the portals. Mr. Hugman said that SPDC did authorize funding too 30 purchase property on Davis for a portal site. 31 32 SPIN -Georgia/White -Ms. White said that a new committee was elected, with Mr. Mike 33 Conrad as the new chair, Cameron McCartha as vice-chair, Kim O'Brien as the secretary. 34 Ms. White said that a SPIN meeting is being prepared for April 12, 2000 to discuss the 35 Costco. Ms. White said that also on April 12, 2000, Parks is going to make a presentation 36 on the trails master plan. Ms. White said that is has been decided to divide the City into 3 37 zones. Ms. Stokdyk asked for the date on this meeting. Mr. Hugman replied April 13, 38 2000. Ms. Stokdyk asked if the Costco had been approved. Mr. Hugman said that it has not 39 made it to first reading at City Council and was tabled at Planning and Zoning. Ms. Stokdyk 40 asked if this was purchased land or if this was land that Lowe's was leasing to Costco. 41 Mr. Hugman said that it would be the next phase of Gateway Plaza. 42 43 SPDC - Berman/White - No report. 44 Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page 8 of 10 N: (Parks & Recreation lBOARDSIPKBOARDIMINUTES120001041000.doc * * OFFICIAL MINUTES * * APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 JUC - Glover - Mr. Glover said that the next Joint Use Council meeting would be April 13, 2 2000. 3 4 City Council Monthly Report - Mr. Anderson is scheduled to present the report at the first 5 May City Council meeting. 6 7 Equestrians - Anderson/White - Ms. White said the next meeting will be April 18, 2000. 8 Ms. White said that currently plans are being made to remove tires. Ms. White asked about 9 getting trucks to use when the tires are removed. Mr. Hugman said that Steve Polasek is 10 working on the project for the fall but that he was not aware of anything for the upcoming 11 weekend. Mr. Hugman said that it was suggested that fall would be the best time to do this, 12 to allow for adequate timing and preparation. Mr. Hugman said that Mr. Polasek's idea was 13 to airlift the tires out with a helicopter since it will be difficult to get trucks back there. Mr. 14 Kemp asked if they were close to the water. Ms. White said that no they were beyond the 15 fence, closer to the trees. Mr. Hugman said that it had been discussed with the Corps about 16 dumping them in Lake Grapevine to use as a fish habitat. Mr. Hugman said that the Corps 17 was receptive to that idea. Mr. Hugman said another reason to wait was they did not want to 18 to allow the vegetation to die back in the fall. Mr. Hugman said that if anything was taking 19 place this weekend he was not aware of it. Ms. White said that this weekend they were only 20 taking the tires and moving them closer to the front end. Mr. Hugman asked who the 21 contact person was for the clean up. Ms. White said that she or anyone on the committee 22 would be. Ms. Stokdyk expressed concern about tires in the lake. Ms. White said that it 23 does no damage and is great for fish habitat. Ms. White said that if Ms.Stokdyk had any 24 further questions she could talk to Corps about it. 25 26 Traffic Management Bond - Georgia/White -Ms. Georgia said that as soon as this piece is 27 complete, better estimates will be available of the project costs and whether or not the 28 budgeted money is on target, or if there will not be enough money to provide for rest stops. 29 Ms. Georgia said that what is in question is whether as trail is being designed, can nice 30 landscaping and other amenities be afforded? Mr. Hugman said that the bond is estimated 31 for trail construction and for right of way purchase along White Chapel. Mr. Hugman said 32 that row acquisition is a large unknown at this time. Mr. Hugman said that as far as trail 33 construction goes, the City does have estimates, and the engineers have estimates. However, 34 until the project is bid out and done, there is not a firm grasp of cost. This will give a good 35 base line for cost of construction trails, and putting in retaining walls. Mr. Hugman said that 36 from that the City would be able to tell if other non-budgeted items, like rest stops, will be 37 able to be afforded. Mr. Glover asked if those things were figured into the cost. Mr. 38 Hugman said they were not. Mr. Hugman said that non-budgeted items included benches, 39 landscaping, stone work, and corner intersections. Ms. Georgia said that these were needed 40 items, especially once traffic flow increases. 41 42 Agenda Item No. 7, Adjournment. 43 44 The meeting was adjourned by Chair Sherry Berman at 7:55. Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page 9 of 10 N: Parks & Recreation WOARDSIPKBOARDIMINUTES120001041000.doc * * OFFICIAL MINUTES APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS 1 Motion: White 2 Second: Glover 3 For: Anderson, White, Georgia, Kemp, Stokdyk, Miltenberger, Berman, Jim 4 Glover 5 Against: None 6 Approved 8-0 7 8 9 Sherry Berma 10 Ch ' 11 12 13 Cara White 14 Secretary 15 16 17 Parks and Recreation Board Regular Meeting, April 10, 2000 Page 10 of 10 N.•IParks & Recreation OOARDSIPKBOARDIMINUTES120001041000.doc