2035 Corridor Committee Meeting Report - Town Square
Southlake 2035 Corridor Planning Committee Meeting Report
Meeting 23 – June 27, 2019
MEETING
LOCATION: Southlake Police and Fire Headquarters (DPS Headquarters)
Community Room #2001 A & B
600 State Street
Southlake, Texas, 76092
IN
ATTENDANCE:
• City Council Members: Shawn McCaskill, John Huffman, Chad Patton
• Planning & Zoning Commission Members: Daniel Kubiak
• Park Board Member: Frances Scharli
• Ex Officio: Brandon Bledsoe
• City Staff: Ken Baker, Jerod Potts, Madeline Oujesky
AGENDA
ITEMS:
1. Call to Order.
2. Administrative Comments.
3. Review, discuss, and make recommendations on development of
approximately 26 acres for Life Time Athletic Resort located at the
southeast corner of E. SH 114 and E. Dove Road.
4. Review, discuss and make recommendations on the development of 13
residential lots on approximately 18 acres of land located at 208 Randol Mill
Avenue, 1719 Maranatha Way, and 1825 Maranatha Way, generally
located east of Davis Boulevard (FM1938) and approximately 1,200 feet
north of the intersection with Randol Mill Avenue .
5. Review, discuss and make recommendations on proposed exterior building
changes for PNC Bank located at 1111 E. Southlake Boulevard in Park
Village, just west of the southwest corner of E. Southlake Boulevard and N.
Carroll Avenue.
6. Review, discuss and make recommendations on proposed use and
development of 200 S. Peytonville Avenue for Carroll ISD and Carroll Senior
High School, generally located 500 feet south of W. Southlake Boulevard ,
and west of Carroll Senior High School.
7. Review, discuss, and make recommendations on the proposed Southlake
Sanctuary at Bob Jones Nature Center located at 355 E. Bob Jones Road.
8. Review, discuss, and make recommendations on the future buildout of
Southlake Town Square, located south of E. SH 114, north of E. Southlake
Boulevard, and east of N. Carroll Avenue.
9. Adjournment.
MEETING
OVERVIEW:
On June 27, 2019 the Southlake 2035 Corridor Planning Committee held
their twenty-third meeting. The Committee was sent a packet of materials
prior to the meeting that were to be discussed during the session. A
meeting agenda was posted and the meeting time was advertised on the
City’s website. The following meeting report focuses on discussion points
made during the meeting by members of the Committee, public and City
staff. This report is neither verbatim nor does it represent official meeting
minutes; rather it serves to inform elected and appointed officials, City
staff, and the public of the issues and questions raised by the Committee,
City staff, and any attendees of the meeting. Interested parties are
strongly encouraged to follow development cases through the process.
Please visit CityofSouthlake.com/Planning for more information.
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ITEM #8 DISCUSSION – Review, discuss, and make recommendations on the future
buildout of Southlake Town Square, located south of E. SH 114, north of E.
Southlake Boulevard, and east of N. Carroll Avenue.
Staff presentation: Ken Baker
• Future Land Use: Town Center
• Current Zoning: DT (480-410), S-P-1 (480-309), C3
• Town Square Undeveloped - +/- 27 acres
o “DT” Downtown – 21 acres
o “C-3” Commercial District – 8 acres
• Residential Development
o Brownstones Phase 1 – Completed
▪ 43 homes
o Garden District – Approved
▪ 60 residences (not constructed)
▪ 33 brownstones (most units constructed)
o Parkview Residences – Under Construction
▪ 36 units
Questions for staff by the Committee:
N/A
Applicant presentation:
• Start conversation about the future of Southlake Town Square and what it will
look like moving forward.
• How can we enhance our environment? How do we evolve our environment?
What does our market look like? How do we work with the city and residents to
offer more lifestyle choices?
• Southlake Town Square History & Future
o Residential (+/- 241,000 SF)
▪ Garden District Brownstones and Custom Homes
▪ Parkview Residences
o Office (+/- 160,000 SF)
o Retail/Restaurants (+/- 37,000 SF)
• Future Development
o Approx. 27 acres of remaining undeveloped land
▪ 21 acres zoned “DT” Downtown District
▪ 8 acres zoned C-3 General Commercial District
• Opportunities for the City of Southlake
o Improve long-term sustainability of Southlake Town Square
▪ Creation of new districts within Town Square that enhance and
better connect the existing environment
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▪ By right zoning for complementary market-driven developments
o Enhancement of property and retail sales tax base
o Expansion and retention of existing businesses
o Allow new and different upscale residential opportunities to support
existing residents while expanding the target market
• Residential Market Opportunities
o Empty Nesters
o Traveling Executive/Manager
o Relocation/Multiple Homeowner
o Family Situations (Parents and In-laws of Southlake Residents, divorced
Parents, etc.)
o Settles Single/Couple
Questions for applicant by the Committee:
John Huffman: Residents want feedback and open conversations from this group
about the future of Town Square
Daniel Kubiak: A lot of the presentation is pitching the idea of a residential Town
Square. Most everyone here votes for a residential Town Square; therefore, this seems
to be more of a pacing discussion.
Applicant: On the pacing component, planning from a private developer side - historical
and recent projects cannot be done again; the garden district cannot be done again.
You sacrifice financial returns. The pace needs to pick up in our perspective in order to
be financially feasible. Residential component needs to be more .
Daniel Kubiak: Things have changed a lot since 15 and 20 years ago, and things will
change 15 to 20 years in the future. So, your kind of a sking for 10-15-year decision from
us today?
Applicant: Our focus today is ‘what can we get done without being thrown out of a
room’.
Brandon Bledsoe: We approve office buildings, we look at the land use and retail
centers - those are more invest committee type decisions. Where this came into play
before, the pace before was a culmination of a lot of different factors of the first time
going vertical for residences, fixing the back of the existing brownstones, unfinished
parcels and seeing if it will work or not work. All those things manifested itself into
several cases, and to think that’s the proxy for how things move forward in the future
disappoints me. The things Cooper and Stebbins has done with the m arket and
establish the appetite for expensive residential housing in Town Square has been
proven. You cannot spend millions of dollars in pre-development money in hopes to get
something started then the economy changes and continues a cycle. They do bring up
a point in my opinion.
Daniel Kubiak: Have you started conversations with residents around Southlake?
Applicant: We’ve started conversations. W e would like to set up scheduled times to
have open conversations with the community about the future of Town Square.
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Brandon Bledsoe: Attraction to mixed use living gives a neighborhood aspect. The
success of residential depends on the momentum of Town Square; if you lose one,
you’ll lose the other. Leaving Town Square as it currently is does not seem the way to
go in terms of sustainability. Residential will continue to drive retail component. If it
becomes dormant, people will not want to live here, and then it’ll be too late.
Frances Scharli: How do you deal with the rest of the residents who are not
stakeholders here, who love town square, and are worried about density? We need to
have a bigger conversation with all the stakeholders in the city.
Daniel Kubiak: You need a public forum with stakeholders who live here.
Chad Patton: The idea and being able to bring this presentation to a public forum is
critical.
Brandon Bledsoe: We need to have these types of discussions, we need to shape this.
Applicant: Regarding the concept, what is your gut response? What’s too much?
Where’s the right balance?
Chad Patton: Need to define what the next phase is. What section is it and how is it
phased? Conceptually, the general public will have a wall of resistance. Building
momentum needs to be translated.
Daniel Kubiak: I would hate to see everything shaded go residential. In a perfect world
I’d like more retail/office space. Suggest you rank the sites and decide your favorite site.
John Huffman: Ultimately the public will shape this (i.e. the debate and the demands).
That’s the reality of it. Your minimum required pace should be determined internally and
shared with the public. I agree with the other comments that you need to show the sites
you’re focusing on developing and phasing. You also n eed some form of a larger public
setting for discussions with non-Town Square stakeholders. This is a community wide
conversation.
Frances Scharli: I encourage you to not turn this discussion into an ‘us vs. them’
conversation, frame it to an ‘us’ conversation – all of us.
Chad Patton: Just remember we live in a different culture than years ago, we have a
different population.
John Huffman: Your next steps can’t be reactionary, they need to be open and include
the community. Develop some sort of plan and work with city staff.
Ken Baker: Work with CMO about proper setting for public forum.
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STAFF PRESENTATION SHOWN TO COMMITTEE:
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