Item 8 - SPIN Report 2010-03-29SPIN MEETING REPORT
CASE NO. ZA10 -001
PROJECT NAME: Carroll ISD Elementary School
SPIN DISTRICT: SPIN 1
MEETING DATE: March 29, 2010
MEETING LOCATION: 1400 MAIN STREET, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS
MEETING ROOMS 3A 3B
TOTAL ATTENDANCE: Thirty -five (35)
SPIN REPRESENTATIVE(S) PRESENT: Ray Tremain #9), Ron Evans #10)
APPLICANT(S) PRESENTING: John Blacker, Hart Gaugler and Assoc., Inc., John
Haugen, Natex Corporation Architects, Derek Citty, Carroll ISD, Shane Garthoff,
Garthoff Design Landscape Architecture
STAFF PRESENT: Ken Baker, Director of Planning and Development Services,
Richard Schell, Planner II
STAFF CONTACT: Richard Schell, (817)748 -8602; rschelI @ci.southlake.tx.us
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Property Situation
The property is located 2520 and 2530 North White Chapel Boulevard and is approximately
17.8 acres. The property is adjacent to the Kirkwood Hollow subdivision on the north, west,
and south boundaries.
Development Details
CISD is proposing to construct a one -story, 94,000 square foot elementary school. Two
driveways are proposed on White Chapel Blvd. The northern drive will be for parents to drop
off and pick up students. The southern drive will be primarily for bus traffic, access to staff
parking and deliveries. A third drive on Orchard Hill Dr. will be used for emergency access
and other There is a 500 sf. covered canopy for shade proposed for pick up and drop off
location. The developer is seeking LEED certification for this development.
QUESTIONS DISCUSSION
QUESTION: Why install an 8' fence along the southern property boundary when a
6' fence is already there?
RESPONSE: The zoning ordinance requires an 8' screen.
QUESTION: Why is parking still on the south side of the school instead of moving it
to the north?
RESPONSE: There are drainage issues with moving parking to the north and it is
preferable to separate bus traffic and staff parking access from the
student drop off and pick up area.
QUESTION: Why can't you move teacher parking to where the overflow parking is
shown in front of the school?
RESPONSE: It works best to separate staff parking from the drop off area.
QUESTION: Will the gate on Orchard Hill be locked?
RESPONSE: There will be a swing gate that will be kept locked. The drive will only
be used for emergency and other access as needed. There will also
be a lockable pedestrian gate that will initially be left open.
CONCERN: Parents will drop students off on Orchard Hill Drive if there is
pedestrian access.
RESPONSE: CISD will ask the City to install "No Parking" and "No Stopping" signs
along Orchard Hill Drive and the area will be monitored by CISD staff
for a couple of weeks at the beginning of the school year. If a drop off
problem persists, the CISD would ask the Southlake Police Services
to write tickets, if possible.
QUESTION: Is there any guarantee that the drive on Orchard Hill will not someday
be used as a bus route?
RESPONSE: The school has a fifty year life span. We can't guarantee that. We
design as much flexibility into the school site as possible.
CONCERN: With only one entrance on White Chapel for drop off and pick up, the
traffic will back up in the left turn lane.
RESPONSE: There is greater internal stacking compared to other elementary
schools in the district. The left turn lane will hold five or six cars
between the northern driveway and the southern entrance for buses.
QUESTION: How many cars will be coming from the south on White Chapel?
RESPONSE: Approximately 90% of the school traffic will come from the south and
about 10% will come from the north.
CONCERN: White Chapel can't handle the traffic for The Clariden School and this
school. The traffic may back up to the roundabout at Dove and White
Chapel.
QUESTION: How tall are the light poles?
RESPONSE: Twenty feet on top of a two foot pedestal. There will be zero light at
the property lines. LED lights will be used.
QUESTION: Will there be light poles out front?
RESPONSE: Yes.
QUESTION: Can you provide renderings of the view from Orchard Hill showing the
driveway, landscaping and parking?
COMMENT: There needs to be more landscaping along the western property line.
QUESTION: Will you consider irrigating the play area?
RESPONSE: We don't know yet exactly which areas will be irrigated. We don't want
to irrigate too close to existing post oak trees and it wouldn't be
environmentally responsible to waste a lot of water.
QUESTION: Will there be a buffer zone between the 8' school fence and the
residents' existing 6' fences?
RESPONSE: There will be about a one foot space in between the fences. The
residents can tie into the school fence if they so choose.
QUESTION: How many cars do you expect for special events?
RESPONSE: The school district will look at ways to accommodate parking on the
school site, such as perhaps breaking up open houses into grade
levels.
QUESTION: If the pedestrian gate from Orchard Hill is locked, students from
Kirkwood Hollow would have to walk down to Dove and then north on
White Chapel. What is the construction timeline for the sidewalk along
White Chapel from Dove to the school property?
QUESTION: Can you use grasscrete on the driveway to Orchard Hill Drive?
RESPONSE: Maintenance is an issue. It's not feasible considering the school has a
fifty year life cycle.
ADDITIONAL CONCERNS:
Tree preservation area
Power line along southern property line.
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