2007-07-10 Meeting Report (Shady Oaks)SPIN MEETING REPORT
CASE NO. ZA07 -085
PROJECT NAME: Shady Oaks
SPIN DISTRICT: 13
MEETING DATE: July 9, 2007 at 6:30PM
MEETING LOCATION: 1400 MAIN STREET, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS
MEETING ROOMS 3A 3B
TOTAL ATTENDANCE: Approximately Fifty (50)
SPIN REPRESENTATIVE(S) PRESENT: Vic Away
APPLICANT(S) PRESENTING: Kosse Maykus
STAFF PRESENT: Planner Clayton Comstock
STAFF CONTACT: Clayton Comstock, (817)748 -8269; ccomstockoci.southlake.tx.us
APPLICANT PRESENTATION SUMMARY
About the Developer
The Terra Land Management family of developers has developed about 16
subdivisions in Southlake, including:
o Estes Park
o Oak Pointe
o Sandlin Manor
o Clariden Ranch
Property Situation of Proposed Development
97 acres bordered by Coventry (North), Southridge Lakes (South), Shady Oaks Drive,
Durham Elementary /Intermediate School (East), Raven Bend (Southwest), Cross
Timber Hills, and N. Peytonville Avenue (West)
Development Details
Before planning, developer identified existing conditions and cataloged
approximately 550 trees on the site
Proposing SF -20A zoning for 136 lots on 97 acres
o Clowe property 70 acres
o CISD property approx. 27 acres
CISD property was planned for a middle school
City's Master Thoroughfare Plan shows a collector street connecting Shady Oaks Dr.
and Peytonville Ave. this development offers that connection
City's Pathways Plan shows a 8 -foot trail planned to connect Peytonville to Shady
Oaks this development offers that connection
Development will be built in phases, starting with the northeast corner along Shady
Oaks Dr nearest Coventry
Only custom builders will be used
QUESTIONS DISCUSSION
DRAINAGE
QUESTION: What are you going to do about the drainage into Southridge Lakes? The
previous plan showed a drainage detention pond abutting Southridge Lakes lots,
where is that and what will happen to that drainage now?
QUESTION: What will the pond look like on the north end."
QUESTIONS: Will there be additional drainage on Peytonville as a result of this development?
Where will the water that leaves the site on Peytonville go? Can you improve
the ditches along Peytonville?
QUESTION: There is a creek on the east side of Shady Oaks Dr that runs north... do you
expect any of this development's runoff to go into that creek?
QUESTION: There is a huge flow of water behind lots 27 -29 of Southridge Lakes. Will
there be any kind of retaining wall to hold off and capture that water?
CONCERN: The City should have a Comprehensive Drainage Plan to address areas like this.
DEVELOPMENT
QUESTION: Is there a minimum home size?
QUESTION: What is your expected price point and how many builders will be used?
RESPONSE: $1.3 $2.0 million homes on approximately $300, 000+ lots built by 8 10 builders.
QUESTION: What are the setbacks of the properties? What kind of fencing is proposed?
QUESTION: This plan is much different from the previous plan. Why has it changed
QUESTION: What size lots are you proposing
RESPONSE: The average lot size is approximately 25, 000 square feet. The minimum is 20,000
square feet, which is the minimum required under the requested SF -20A zoning
district category.
QUESTION: What size homes are you proposing
RESPONSE: Between 5,000 and 6, 000 square feet.
QUESTIONS: Will the sidewalk be for public use Where will they be placed Sidewalks are
lacking in this area and would be beneficial to get to Durham Elementary
Intermediate School.
QUESTION: What is the anticipated schedule of development? Specifically, during which
phase will the entire roadway be completed?
RESPONSE: The developer hopes to begin infrastructure installation in December 2007 and
deliver the first lots April/May 2008. They are planning this to be a 3 -5 year project,
although Estes Park (similar in size character) was planned for 6-years and is
ahead of schedule.
TRAFFIC
QUESTION: Won't this duplicate the problem Coventry has with cut through traffic?
DEBATE: Street alignment on both Peytonville Shady Oaks. Some residents thought
there should be a controlled intersection at Cross Timbers and the entrance to
the new development, some thought the entrance should be placed further south.
QUESTION: Does this new plan change the entrance of Coventry?
RESPONSE: This new plan presented tonight does not change the entrance to Coventry.
OTHER
QUESTION: How will it affect Durham's attendance?
QUESTION: Who will be mowing the Clowe property in the interim?
RESPONSE: As soon as Mr. Clowe is off the property, we (the developer) will be responsible for
its mowing.
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staff, and the public of the issues and questions raised by residents and the general responses made. Responses as
summarized in this report should not be taken as guarantees by the applicant. Interested parties are strongly
encouraged to follow the case through the Planning and Zoning Commission and final action by City Council.