PZ Item 11 - 2035 Corridor Committee Meeting Report
Southlake 2035 Corridor Planning Committee Meeting Report
Meeting 6 – October 26, 2016
MEETING
LOCATION:
Southlake Town Hall – Executive Conference Room, Suite 268
1400 Main Street
Southlake, Texas, 76092
IN
ATTENDANCE:
• City Council Members: Gary Fawks, Chad Patton
• Planning & Zoning Commission Members: Michael Springer, Chris
Greer
• Park Board Member: Frances Scharli
• City Staff: Ken Baker, Dennis Killough, Richard Schell, Kyle Hogue
AGENDA
ITEMS:
1. Call to Order.
2. Review and make recommendations on the proposed Stacy property
residential development generally located north of W. Southlake Blvd.,
west of Shady Oaks Dr., south of the South Ridge Lakes Addition and
east of the Ginger Creek Addition.
3. Adjournment.
MEETING
OVERVIEW:
On October 26, 2016 the Southlake 2035 Corridor Planning Committee
held their sixth meeting. The Committee was sent a packet of materials
prior to the meeting that were to be discussed during the session. A
meeting agenda was posted and the meeting time was advertised on the
City’s website. The following meeting report focuses on discussion points
made during the meeting by members of the Committee, public and City
staff. This report is neither verbatim nor does it represent official meeting
minutes; rather it serves to inform elected and appointed officials, City
staff, and the public of the issues and questions raised by the Committee,
City staff, and any attendees of the meeting. Interested parties are
strongly encouraged to follow development cases through the process.
Please visit CityofSouthlake.com/Planning for more information.
Southlake 2035 Corridor Planning Committee Item #2 – Stacy Property
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ITEM #2 DISCUSSION –STACY PROPERTY (Proposed 59-Lot, 58-Acre residential
subdivision north of Southlake Blvd., and west of Shady Oaks Dr.):
• Staff made presentation to the Committee
• Kosse Maykus, representing the project, made a presentation to the Committee.
The following includes comments by the presenter and other representatives of
the project:
o Looked at one-acre project initially
Could not get something they were comfortable with
Looked at intersections at FM 1709 and Shady Oaks
o Wanted to align with the entrance to The Marq
o Surveyed all the trees on the property. About 38 trees > 25 inches in diameter
(Legacy Oaks)
o Developer believes this proposal meets the intent of the Land Use Plan
o Rick Stacy’s house on the property will stay
o Circle area (oval park) in the center of the proposal contains all but about six of
the identified Legacy Oak trees
This area will not require much site work
o Would work with the City’s traffic consultant and staff to get a traffic signal at FM
1709
Developer will pay some part or half of cost for traffic signal installation
o Proposing a gated subdivision with private streets
o Intention is for this to be a custom-built subdivision
o Rick Stacy owns most of the land. The west 10 acres owned by others
o If traffic signal on FM 1709 not provided, the access onto FM 1709 will not be
provided. Emergency access to FM 1709 will be provided on the western portion
of the property
o Buffer provided along FM 1709 – 40’ to 100’ in width, homes face the green
o Tried to consider what the project would look like from 1709
o Both entrances lead to the central open space area – focal point
• Questions for the Applicant(s)
Q: In your proposal you were saying about an emergency exit – would that be sod
with brick or real driveway?
A: It would be real pavement. Most emergency access is 22’ fire lane – this would
probably be a 24’
Q: Consider doing that but more natural? Doesn’t look like a driveway when you
look at it.
A: Tell us what to do and we’ll do it
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Q: People across the street in Timberlake previously worried about ponds being
silted in – they wanted money put in escrow if it had to be cleaned out
A: Timberlake is 15-20 years. More regulation for siltation now – will be under much
more intense regulatory environment. We will come in and grass the whole site
Q: Would you be willing to have an escrow account to ensure that the Timberlake
Pond is not impacted by construction?
A: Do not have a problem – real key would be the language. What is it that will
trigger doing that?
RESPONSE BY COMMITTEE: Think you need to do something – establish a
baseline
COMMITTEE: Is the concern what will happen during construction or long term?
COMMITTEE: Silt built up from previous stuff – felt it was unjustly dumped on
them – didn’t want to have to pay again
Q: What is your park dedication on this?
A: Would be considered a private park
Q: Is there no concern for the ponds on site that will go away?
A: Ponds are not natural
Q: Are the ponds on the site spring-fed ponds or well-fed ponds?
A: Well-fed. Will commence delineation barring the government saying the ponds
need to be saved – otherwise ponds will be filled in
Q: Green space would be built with existing grade at 1709?
A: Southlake Blvd. is pretty close to grade – no need to change existing grade for
greenbelt
Q: Retaining wall?
A: No – can meet grade requirements
Q: Wall and fence plan?
A: Wrought iron fencing along trees in southwest corner. Would put in 8’ foot wood
fence where we back up to residential
RESPONSE BY COMMITTEE: Is there a buffer for neighbors?
RESPONSE BY DEVELOPER: No just a normal building line – quite a few
trees. Could put a landscape easement?
Q: Taking some of these lots on your own? Have you identified other builders?
A: Have about 5-8. Depends on what their capacity is. Have a preferred list
Q: At any point in time did you look at ingress/egress further north on Shady Oaks?
May be problematic if you cannot get a light at 1709
A: No
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Q: Where would the gate be?
A: Gate would be located to allow queuing – cue two or three cars
Q: With the lot count – would you have to get a variance?
A: Could do without a land use amendment if one lot were lost
• Questions for Staff by Committee
Q: What does the Ordinance say about gated communities?
A: If the properties are already owned you must get 100% participation and petition
the city, but you can bring in development as a private street and gated
subdivision but this must be approved by City Council
• Questions for Staff by Applicant
Q: Private streets are allowed if approved by City Council?
A: Would need a variance
• Comments by the Committee
o Drainage and silting problem is what I have heard the most complaints about
o The street - people were worried about high-school kids making a left-hand
turning out of there going to school
RESPONSE BY DEVELOPER: Have talked to people. Do not know what their
reaction will be – do not know what neighbors will think
o Like the buffer in the front
o Like the median in both of the proposed drives
o Density may be problematic
o Council has not shown interest in having a big lot with a bunch of small lots
(adding the Stacy properties to bring the density down and have the same
number of lots)
o Not a fan of gated communities
o Like the oval park in the middle, saving the trees
o Show density calculation without including Stacy property or private streets in
calculation
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STAFF PRESENTATION SHOWN TO COMMITTEE:
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APPLICANT PRESENTATION SHOWN TO COMMITTEE:
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