2017-06-13 Meeting Report (Catalina Point) JUSOUTHLAKE
SPIN MEETING REPORT
SPIN Item Number: SPIN2017-15
Project Name: Catalina Point
SPIN Neighborhood: SPIN#1
Meeting Date: June 13, 2017
Meeting Location: 1400 Main Street, Southlake, TX
City Council Chambers
Total Attendance: Nineteen (19)
Host: Sherry Berman, Community Engagement Committee
Applicant Presenting: Curtis Young
City Staff Present: Jerod Potts, Assistant to the Director—Planning and Development
Services
Attached to the end of this report are the Southlake Connect Results for the June 13, 2017 SPIN Town
Hall Forum
Town Hall Forums can be viewed in their entirety by visiting http://www.cityofsouthlake.com and clicking
on "Learn More" under Video On Demand; forums are listed under SPIN by meeting date.
FORUM SUMMARY:
Property Situation:
• 500 E. Bob Jones Rd.
Development Details:
• Property located at the east end of Bob Jones Rd.
• Site more than half surrounded by Corps property associated with Lake
Grapevine
• The ground pretty much drains toward the lake to the northeast
• Will have to take care of drainage from neighboring property to the west and
water will come down either side of Bob Jones Rd. heading toward the Corps
land around the lake
• Two fairly large trees in the middle of the property
• Applicant mentioned the property was cleared of all vegetation in 1942
• Put the road center to the project to save two trees — 5 of the seven lots would
back up to the Corps property—would have 7 custom home sites
• All lots at least an acre; proposing to develop the property with SF-1A zoning
• Would work with landscape entry, there would be screening wall of some kind
along Bob Jones Rd. —would probably screen with landscaping — some of those
things have not been designed
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QUESTIONS /CONCERNS:
• Area was appealing because of the environment - had an open feel
• Concerned about the infrastructure in the area, road is beat up
• Thought this area would keep the agricultural zoning; like the openness and
quiet of the area
• Entrance to the proposed subdivision would require the removal of two trees
• Areas of home would be affected by headlights - invasion of privacy
o Response: Will have to dedicate right-of-way - trees may be in ROW;
there may be a way to save them - maybe the entry could be divided
• How much will you raise the elevation of the property?
o Wouldn't really be raised - property has a gradual slope down to the
Corps — there would probably be areas flattened
• Most houses face the street in this area - this would be gone — changing
dynamics of neighborhood
• Are you going to put in septic tanks in at the elevation?
o Yes
• On a limited water supply in the area - this has been a huge issue all along
• Have a lot of pooling of water in the area
• Out in the area because of the country feel in Southlake
• Fear losing the deer heard
• In the area, all of the homes seem to fit - concern with consistency
• Have you considered alternative designs that you would share with the group?
That might have an entrance further to the east with not as imposing of a street
o There is a premium on the lots immediately adjacent to the open space so
probably not - road probably cannot go to the east
• Not in favor of any masonry wall along that property - changes look and feel of
neighborhood
• Understanding was that homes could not be built there without significantly
building up due to all of the excavation
o It is not in the flowage easement, which is the upper limit of Grapevine
Lake. It rises probably as much as 20 feet across the property going east
to west
• Do not have sidewalks out there, the road is awful - concerned that putting a
neighborhood there would make it harder for those who live out there — more
wear and tear on the roads
• Bar ditch overflows out into the street every time that it rains
• Road cannot handle the traffic - street cannot structurally sustain what you are
planning to add
• Surprised that piece of land has not flooded
• What year was your flood study done?
o Corps has a flowage easement up to an elevation of 572 feet, and only
part of the property according to the surveyors is within the 572 contour -
would have to grade each lot so it drains
• When it rains torrentially it is a swamp. Curious about the flood zones, have
seen so much water out there
o Have to grade each lot to make sure it drains accurately. As far as the
flooding coming from the lake itself, that is what the flowage easement is
for
• What do you intend to do along the west property line? Are you going to build a
wall, cut it back?
o Right now it is a cut pretty much right on the property line. Some of that
may extend into your property. Would first need to look at stability of the
slope, whether it is stable or if it needs to reinforcement — there may be a
need for some kind of a retaining wall at the bottom of it to maintain it so it
doesn't slope down
• How will you drain it?
o To the east — not toward the west
• Only logical way to drain it is to go north not east — you have water standing in
the southwest corner. How is my property going to be affected by drainage down
Bob Jones Rd.? You're going to have to have something alongside that wall,
whatever wall you put in, is that going to have to carry up and through along my
side of the property line, and up to where?
o No — it would not infringe on your property at all
• Bar ditch will not hold all that
o Would have to do an analysis
• What about your entryway— have at least a 10 foot drop down to the level of
where the land is now from where you are turning - are you going to build that
way for your road, or fill in the entire thing?
o Would build a subservice to support the road — there would be a culvert of
some kind underneath
• You are going to have to raise those lots - want to know how much you are
going to raise them by —when you build those, view will become rooftops and
property value will drop
o The detail hasn't been designed yet. Can maybe do a cross-section study
on that
• How will you share this information?
o Would like to propose that we get together and meet before Planning &
Zoning
• Has the property been closed and sold?
o Believe it is under contract
SPIN Meeting Reports are general observations of SPIN Meetings by City staff and SPIN Representatives. The report is neither verbatim nor official
meeting minutes;rather it serves to inform elected and appointed officials,City staff,and the public of the issues and questions raised by residents and
the general responses made. Responses as summarized in this report should not be taken as guarantees by the applicant. Interested parties are
strongly encouraged to follow the case through the Planning and Zoning Commission and final action by City Council.
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