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Item SB 3 Minutes SIGN BOARD MEETING JANUARY 7, 2016 LOCATION: 1400 Main Street, Southlake, Texas Work Session - Executive Conference Room, Suite 268 of Town Hall or City Council Chambers of Town Hall Regular Session - City Council Chambers of Town Hall COMMISSIONERS PRESENT : Chairman Parrish, Vice Chairman Forman, Eric Ransom, Daniel Kubiak, Michael Springer, and Chris Greer STAFF PRESENT: Deputy Director, Dennis Killough; Lorrie Fletcher, Planner I; and Holly Blake, Commission Secretary. REGULARSESSION: Agenda Item No. 1 – Call to Order: Chairman Parrish called the Sign Board Meeting to order at 11:24 pm. Agenda Item No. 2 – Executive Session: A. Executive Session : Pursuant to the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551, Texas Government Code, Sections 551.071. Refer to posted list attached hereto and Executive Session may be held, under these exceptions, at the incorporated herein. end of the Regular Session or at any time during the meeting that a need arises for the Planning and Zoning Commission to seek advice from the City Attorney as to the posted subject matter of this Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Section 551.071: Consultation with attorney B. Reconvene: Action necessary on items discussed in Executive Session. Agenda Item No. 3 – Approval of the minutes for the Sign Board meeting held on November 19, 2015. Motion to approve the minutes dated November 19, 2015. Motion: Kubiak Second: Greer Ayes: Kubiak, Greer, Ransom, Forman, Springer and Parrish Nays: None Abstain: None Approved: 6-0-0 Agenda Item No. 4:SV15-010, Variance to the Master Sign Plan regulations for Park Village for The Juice Bar located at 1161 E. Southlake Boulevard, Suite 284, Southlake, Texas. Lorrie Fletcher presented Item No. 4, SV15-010. Sign Board Meeting Minutes – January 7, 2016 Page 1 of 4 Commissioner Forman asked what has been done in regards to max on other signs over there. Ms. Fletcher stated that recently we approved Gloria’s. Commissioner Springer asked about Michael’s. Ms. Fletcher stated that Michael’s was included with the Master Sign Plan. Chairman Parrish asked about what happened at council with respect to Fusion Academy. That had a similar request. Ms. Fletcher stated they were required to scale it down and match the Earth Store. Ms. Fletcher continued to state that the Juice Bar is claiming that their logo or copyright for their company sign is justification for the variance. Steve Vince, 2611 Anjohn Dr., Dallas came forward. Mr. Vince explained the reason for the variance. Commissioner Springer asked about the color. Mr. Vince stated that it is silver with a white halo that goes back and outlines the letters. Commissioner Springer asked if the picture is at the same scale as it will look. Mr. Vince stated yes. Commissioner Kubiak stated it fits with the development. Motion to approve SV15-010 as presented and subject to the staff report dated December 30, 2015 and specifically granting the variances requested. Motion: Kubiak Second: Greer Ayes: Kubiak, Greer, Ransom, Forman, Springer and Parrish Nays: None Abstain: None Approved: 6-0-0 Agenda Item No. 5:SV15-011, Variance to the Sign Ordinance No. 704-H regulations for Edward Jones located at 560 N. Kimball Avenue, Suite 120, Southlake, Texas. Applicant tabled SV15-011 prior to the meeting to the Sign Board Regular Meeting dated January 21, 2016. Agenda Item No. 6:MSP15-005, Master Sign Plan for Children's Health located at 470 E. State Highway 114, Southlake, Texas. Lorrie Fletcher presented Item No. 6, MSP15-005. Heather Chandler, 8140 Walnut Hill Ln., Dallas came forward with a presentation. Commissioner Springer likes the look of the main sign but the size has been reduced Sign Board Meeting Minutes –January 7, 2016 Page 2 of 4 and believes it is unreadable from the access road. On the internal sign there is no masonry at the bottom. Ms. Chandler believes that the message size was more important than the logo. It is more of a wayfinding sign. Commissioner Kubiak agrees. On the main sign, the font got smaller, but the sign got taller from 7-ft. to 12-ft. Ms. Fletcher stated that along SH-114, 12-ft. is allowed. Commissioner Kubiak asked about masonry requirements. Ms. Fletcher stated that all monument signs are required to have a 6-inch masonry frame. The signs being presented are maxed out on what’s aloud by the general sign ordinance as far as base height and sign face area. Ms. Chandler asked if the masonry surround is included in the overall square footage sign allowed. Ms. Fletcher stated no. Commissioner Springer stated that the masonry at the base is nice. Not having it around the sign is ok. However, the font is too small. Commissioner Kubiak agrees. Ms. Chandler stated that they can make the font larger but would like to stay within the ordinance as much as possible. Ms. Fetcher stated that the 6-inch frame would be included in the total height but the 6- inch frame would not be included in the sign face total. Commissioner Kubiak stated that moving forward with the sign heights with the next couple of vehicular directional signs that are 6 ½-ft. currently replacing with 5 ½-ft. and 4-ft. signs. What are the signage criteria for height? Ms. Fletcher stated that they meet the general criteria and the sign height and the sign face area. The only thing not met is the 75-ft. setback and the 6-inch masonry frame requirement. The directional signs are limited to 3-ft. in height and 4-sq.ft. in the sign face area is also limited to two per sight. No setback requirement but the 6-inch masonry frame is required. Commissioner Kubiak verified that actual height is 3-ft. It might be better to stick with the height that it is replacing. The masonry base needs to be consistent too. Commissioner Springer stated the sign for surgery center believes the font gets lost with the Children’s Health sign. Commissioner Greer agrees. Ms. Chandler stated back what the Commissioner commented on and changes they would like to see. Commissioner Kubiak asked for clarification from staff about specifics to keep the applicant as close to ordinance as possible. Sign Board Meeting Minutes –January 7, 2016 Page 3 of 4 Ms. Fletcher gave specifics. Motion to approve MSP15-005 as presented and subject to the staff report dated December 30, 2015 and accepting the proposed signage noted in the staff report with the following exceptions; noting the applicant's willingness to potentially look at slightly increased font size on the business monument size only and noting that just on the internal site directional signs, that the height will be capped at 4' 2", the same as the existing vehicular signs that are being replaced and a masonry base is required on those signs. Motion: Kubiak Second: Springer Ayes: Kubiak, Greer, Ransom, Forman, Springer and Parrish Nays: None Abstain: None Approved: 6-0-0 Agenda Item No. 7: Meeting adjourned at 12:13 am. ______________________________ D. Todd Parrish ATTEST: Chairman ________________________________ Holly Blake Commission Secretary Sign Board Meeting Minutes –January 7, 2016 Page 4 of 4